2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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  1. NOVoodoo

    NOVoodoo Kickin it in 2525

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    BTW -

    If this Scola trade actually goes through, I welcome it from the stance that it helps out the East. Too many of these Eastern Conference teams are tanking. As Trail Blazers fans, aren't ya'll tired of the East being such a steaming pile of top-heavy crap? Throw Portland in the East last season, and they're the 6th seed, at worst.

    On the flip side, if you threw last season's Knicks, who were praised all fuckin season long while no one talked about teams like Denver or Memphis, the high and mighty Knicks would probably be lucky to get the #8 seed.
     
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  2. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    1st-rounders can't "restructure" their contracts, the options are solely team options for specified amounts. They either get the option (90% or so of players) or they don't (like Babbitt and Smith). If the team declines the option the players are UFAs.
     
  3. Rhal

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    Its annoying as hell the east be as weak as they are. since 2002 - 2003 9 times the 9th team in the west had a better record then the 8th team in the east. in 4 of those years at least 2 teams out of the playoffs in the west had better records then the 8th seed (12-13 2 teams, 10-11 3 teams, 07-08 3 teams, 03-04 4 teams). in 09-10 the West had 8 teams with 50 win records and the east only had 4. I would like it to even out at some point but i'm not sure if it ever will.
     
  4. Rastapopoulos

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    Huh. Maybe they persuaded him by telling him that EVERYONE had him as a second round pick, so he's doing better than he should as it is.

    Also, they could point to the Bulls picking Travis Knight then not even signing him, and say "it could be a lot worse, buddy - whaddya want? It's not like you set Summer League on fire."

    But yes, it certainly makes them look cheap. As if we didn't know that already from the Harden trade. How soon before players start getting disgruntled? I think Deron Williams got pissed off with Utah when they started giving away solid players (Maynor, Brewer) to save money.
     
  5. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    If he didn't accept the scale, what would his option be? Would the Thunder still have his rights or would he become a UFA?
     
  6. Rastapopoulos

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    In the old days, before they introduced the scale, there were almost always holdouts. Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson held out well into the season. I think you have to sit out an entire year, and not play for ANY league for a team to lose your rights.

    That's part of the reason summer league never used to matter, because hardly any teams had signed their rookies by then.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Man, so they can keep him from playing for a year? I'm surprised more teams haven't tried this tactic with picks, especially lower in the first round.
     
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    I like this trade better for PHX now that I hear the specifics.

     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Basically two 1st round picks and a $7M/2 year contract on a player who may not be useful.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Looks like I nailed that one. If I could, I'd rep myself...

     
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    I understand why IND did it. They are in it to win now and Scola can certainly bolster their bench. With that said, it is quite a bit to give up for a guy who was claimed off amenisted waivers. PHX made out well.
     
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  12. NOVoodoo

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    The word is that the Knicks and Grizz are looking into Delonte West. As crazy as that dude is, just look at the Grizz team leaders - Tony Allen and Zach Randolph... those two are crazy as shit as well! I don't want to become the Jail Blazers 2.0, but I doubt he's going to disrupt our chemistry with those two on the squad, and TA's apparently a friend of his.

    So that news came out, and I was pumped, but then I just read this -

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/229154/Grizzlies-Interested-In-Mo-Williams

    Hell yeah! A legitimate back-up point guard for once? I mean, we had shooting problems last year, but we were also shallow as hell in the backcourt. If we could end this offseason by bringing in a shooter (Miller), a legitimate backup C (Koufos) and backup PG (Williams), while resigning TA and drafting a first round talent in the second round (Franklin), I'd have to give our offseason an A+ for the first time in a long time.

    This would be the depth chart... new additions in bold, unsigned but holding the rights in (parenthesis) -

    See ya in the WCF again, San Antonio...
     
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    I didn't even know Mo Williams was available. He gets a lot of hate but I've always like his game.

    Olshey should have got on that. Oh well.
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

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    I think Mo ends up with Miami. He wants a big contract, he's not going to get one this time round, so why not sign up for a year with a championship contender (sorry Memphis, but that's not quite you) and get maximum exposure and probably a ring?

    Not that it really matters, but Akognon is in no shape or form (except height) a PG. He's a gunner to the core. So basically just like Wroten and Bayless. Only even more so.

    I wanted Jamaal Franklin (although we have our version in Will Barton - maybe we should swap, Barton being an ex-Tiger) - he should be fun to watch in garbage time in any blowouts that you have.

    Calathes should be a good pickup: a sort of Steve Blake type. Even without Williams that team is pretty stacked. Pacers West. Was the Koufos trade in part to clear up playing time for Ed Davis? Because it's about time he was given a chance. He's your Jermaine O'Neal.

    Last thought on Memphis: Peter Vecsey thinks the team is going to miss Lionel Hollins badly. I know you don't rate his coaching, but Vecsey reckons it was his force of personality that kept the crazies on that team in line.
     
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    Camby back with Houston. Asik's just feeling more and more wanted!
     
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    Mo Williams has already shown he is the perfect Pg next to LeBron too
     
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    Cleveland got to the finals with Mo as their second-best player. That alone is tribute to LeBron's greatness.
     
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    Thanks for the info about Teodosic... I hadn't even realized that the Grizzlies were going for him. You'd think that being a small town, we'd have a lot of coverage of our one pro team, but it's amateur hour around here.

    My only question with Teodosic turning down our offer is... what was the Grizz's offer? I just googled Teodosic's salary, and apparently he made over $2.5 mill in USD's last season. Maybe the Grizz just didn't offer him enough money...

    As far as Williams goes... I get it, we're not Miami or San Antonio, but we're that next level, and we can offer more money. Not to mention, Mo Williams if from Jackson, which is a short day's drive from Memphis. I'm sure he's got a lot of family in the area, maybe even a house, and that could factor into the equation. I mean, Monta Ellis is from Jackson, and he lives in Memphis in the offseason.

    Hell, he wouldn't be the first player to turn down supposed better "contenders" for the Grizzlies this summer. Mike Miller turned down OKC and Houston to sign with Memphis, so I don't see why it's unrealistic to think Williams would turn down the Heat and Spurs' less lucrative offers to move right outside his hometown and play for a WCF team.

    The Heat are probably the realistic leaders, given that they can actually offer him a starting position and the best chances of a title, but I wouldn't count the Grizz out of the race yet.
     
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