Oh sorry I forgot another section of Bronny I left out; How did Day 2 work out for Bronny James? After an impressive showing during the drills and athletic testing on the first day of the combine, USC guard Bronny James, who is ranked No. 98 in our Top 100, could not maintain that momentum during his first scrimmage opportunity on Tuesday. He played 19 minutes in the first game of the afternoon, scoring four points on 2-of-8 shooting and grabbing four rebounds. "He needed to assert himself," an Eastern Conference general manager told ESPN. While addressing reporters hours later, James acknowledged that his heart issues hindered him during his freshman year in college but said he was excited to use this week as a showcase for NBA teams. Several NBA executives who spoke to ESPN this week said they were looking forward to seeing him on the court again after his limited college season. Those executives, including Lakers vice president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka, stuck around to watch his workouts later Monday. The stands at Wintrust Arena were more full for the earlier scrimmage Tuesday featuring James than later that afternoon. However, James did not finish Day 2 with the same buzz he generated the first day. "He made that nice move for a floater," an Eastern Conference scout told ESPN. "But he needed to do something more to stand out." -- Collier Devin Carter, PG, Providence: Carter (No. 17 in our Top 100) was our highest-ranked prospect to participate in Monday's optional 4-on-4 component, which, unsurprisingly, proved to be a good decision. Known for his toughness and physical style of play, Carter was his usual self in the drill setting, battling defensively and raising the energy level of others on the floor. He also tested quite well, recording an unofficial 42-inch max vertical (tied with Reed Sheppard and Trentyn Flowers for the top mark), 35-inch standing vertical (also tied for the top score), and setting a combine record for three-quarter-court sprint time. While he won't play in scrimmages this week, a solid day at the combine helped back up Carter's reputation as one of the draft's top defenders and athletes. He'll be a strong consideration for teams searching for NBA-ready backcourt help, and presuming he takes this momentum into private workouts, Carter could feasibly come off the board as high as the late lottery. -- Woo Nothing on Keshad Johnson
What's your biggest takeaway from Tuesday? Givony: I was pleasantly surprised by the level of participation in the scrimmages. We heard that because the NBA made scrimmages voluntary for fringe first- and second-rounders, agents were considering advising their players not to participate. Instead, both combine games were littered with elite players and several younger prospects coming off disappointing seasons hoping to improve their standing. We'll see what happens Wednesday -- typically many of the top performers from the first day decline to play on Day 2. But between the first day of drills and Tuesday, we've seen far more basketball activity from the draft's best players than I can remember in quite some time. Woo: The energy level and quality of play in both combine games was quite good and helped reinforce the value in players participating. Echoing Jonathan, it was great to see quality prospects taking the floor -- it feels like we say this every year, but in recent history, the list of players who have helped themselves in this event is much longer than those who have harmed their stock. The NBA's changes to the combine format seem to have made a positive impact on the week. Marks: Bypassing the combine has now been eliminated with the most recent collective bargaining agreement. Former player and camp director Derek Fisher talked to ESPN on the impact he sees with the new participation rule. "It is vital to the future of the game," Fisher said. "We should be able to evaluate players coming into the league. Just having them here, allowing teams to sit down face to face. To go through the medical process and go through the testing in front of the teams. To me that is important. If you want what comes with being in this league, you should want to show up. If you are as great as you think you are and your representative feels you are, it is OK to come here and get evaluated." Year by year the NBA saw a significant drop in first-round prospects not attending the draft combine. Because of the absence, teams were left scrambling to obtain medical information, measurements and conduct interviews. Simply put: Player participation matters. Bronny James?[/paste:font] After an impressive showing during the drills and athletic testing on the first day of the combine, USC guard Bronny James, who is ranked No. 98 in our Top 100, could not maintain that momentum during his first scrimmage opportunity on Tuesday. He played 19 minutes in the first game of the afternoon, scoring four points on 2-of-8 shooting and grabbing four rebounds. "He needed to assert himself," an Eastern Conference general manager told ESPN. While addressing reporters hours later, James acknowledged that his heart issues hindered him during his freshman year in college but said he was excited to use this week as a showcase for NBA teams. Several NBA executives who spoke to ESPN this week said they were looking forward to seeing him on the court again after his limited college season. Those executives, including Lakers vice president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka, stuck around to watch his workouts later Monday. The stands at Wintrust Arena were more full for the earlier scrimmage Tuesday featuring James than later that afternoon. However, James did not finish Day 2 with the same buzz he generated the first day. "He made that nice move for a floater," an Eastern Conference scout told ESPN. "But he needed to do something more to stand out." -- Collier Baylor Scheierman, SG/SF, Creighton:Scheierman, ranked No. 39 in our top 100, continued to make his case as a possible first-round pick with a strong scrimmage performance Tuesday -- 17 points, 8 rebounds and 3 steals in a win. It didn't surprise anyone to see Scheierman make deep 3s from all over the court after what he did in college, but he showed more competitiveness defensively than we had previously seen. He generated quite a few turnovers fighting over screens, denying off ball and sliding his feet with purpose. He communicated nonstop and took a step ahead thanks to his sharp basketball instincts. Big wings who can pass and shoot are coveted in today's NBA, and if Scheierman can convince teams he can hold his own defensively, there's no reason he wouldn't project as a solid rotation player. -- Givony Ajay Mitchell, PG, UC Santa Barbara: Mitchell only scored five points, but set the tone for his team from the opening tip with his unselfish ball movement and excellent vision operating out of pick-and-roll, generating seven assists in 21 minutes. He made several impressive reads manipulating the defense with his handle, pace and creativity, whipping touch passes to get his teammates easy baskets to help build a 30-point lead. He also used his size (6-foot-4 1/2 in shoes) and strong frame to pressure the ball the length of the floor and make things difficult on opponents, displaying important qualities NBA teams look for when seeking backup point guard candidates in the Andrew Nembhard mold. After an injury-riddled junior season at Santa Barbara, Mitchell (who ranks No. 51 in our top 100) needed a strong combine showing to solidify his standing and could continue to help himself by showing more perimeter shooting prowess than scouts have seen. -- Givony AJ Johnson, SG, Illawarra Hawks (Australian NBL): This is an important week for the 19-year-old guard, who was in Australia playing limited minutes this season. Johnson, who ranks No. 62 in our top 100, reminded NBA scouts why he began the cycle as a projected first-round pick with impressive flashes of talent, changing speeds attacking the lane fluidly with long strides for touch shot finishes, hitting a 3-pointer off movement and making smart pick-and-roll passing reads. He finished with 13 points and 4 assists. His extremely thin frame (167 pounds), lack of experience and inconsistent defense make him a long-term project for a team, but one with significantly more upside than most projected second-round picks, which could make him an interesting swing for a patient NBA team in June. -- Givony Trentyn Flowers, SG/SF, Adelaide 36ers (Australian NBL): Scouts are looking to learn more about Flowers after he played just 229 minutes this season in the Australian NBL. Flowers, ranked No. 72 in our top 100, has put work into improving his frame and had several explosive dunks off baseline cuts -- perhaps not a surprise after leading the combine testing in the 42-inch vertical leap. He also ran the floor energetically in transition, stepped into a catch-and-shoot 3-pointer smoothly and looked more competitive defensively than his reputation indicates, fighting over screens and holding his own. It was a good reminder of why he was a top 25 high school recruit and should give him some positive momentum, especially if he can have another strong showing in the final day of scrimmaging. -- Givony Jonathan Mogbo, C, San Francisco: Mogbo didn't put up eye-popping stats -- 4 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists in 18 minutes -- but had impressive glimpses of playmaking and versatility not typically found among big men. His coach, Ryan Forehan-Kelly, gave him the freedom to push the ball up the court off defensive rebounds and initiate the half-court offense as a pick-and-roll ball handler. Mogbo, ranked No. 70 in our top 100, had flashes of pace, creative passing and polished footwork, which isn't surprising considering he's a late bloomer who grew up playing more guard until hitting a growth spurt. Measured at 6-7 1/2 and 217 pounds, albeit with a 7-2 wingspan and 9-0 1/2 standing reach, Mogbo doesn't have great size or bulk for a big man who doesn't shoot 3-pointers. A return to college for his final year of eligibility to address some of the things teams want to see him work on might help improve his standing for the 2025 draft. -- Givony Draft combine: Day 2 standouts in Chicago • Mock draft: Projecting all 58 picks post-lottery • Inside the secret room where picks are decided • Combine preview: Top prospects, new rules • What NBA execs are saying about Bronny • Givony's big board: Top 25 prospects • Case for No. 1: Dillingham | Risacher | Sarr | Williams KJ Simpson, PG, Colorado: Simpson was his usual self on Tuesday, showcasing his aggressiveness as a scorer racking up 16 points and 3 steals. Despite his size, measuring at just over 6-feet barefooted, Simpson gets into the paint effectively with a fearless approach going downhill and a good understanding of how to work his way to the rim. On the heels of an efficient junior year at Colorado, there has been curiosity from teams if Simpson can find a niche as a microwave-type scorer off the bench, or if he's best suited for a strong career overseas. Some of Simpson's weaknesses were evident -- he doesn't have great vision as a playmaker, nor is he a high-level passer. But the No. 47th-ranked player in our Top 100 is an excellent athlete (reinforced by positive combine testing), changes speeds well off the dribble and proves tough for defenders to stay in front of. He did well on Tuesday to remind scouts he was one of the top guards in college basketball last season, and his mix of speed, strength and scoring instincts at his size should give teams something to think about. -- Woo Isaac Jones, PF/C, Washington State: Jones, ranked No. 65 in our Top 100, has been one of the biggest risers in the early part of the pre-draft circuit, turning in a good showing at Portsmouth and playing well enough at G League Elite Camp to earn a spot in the combine, where he turned in another solid showing Tuesday. He made the most of his opportunities, scoring 14 points on just five field goal attempts and making all eight of his free throws to go with six rebounds (three on the offensive end) and three steals. Jones has been on a unique trajectory, playing three years of junior college -- where he began as a walk-on -- benefiting from a late growth spurt, then turning in productive seasons at Idaho and Washington State. Jones measured well, with a 7-foot-3 wingspan and 9-foot standing reach despite standing just 6-foot-7½ barefoot, and has continued to help himself in Chicago. While not the quickest vertical leaper, Jones has good feet and hands for his size, has flashed some passing and shooting potential, and generally makes smart plays. At 24 years old, his unique story and strong play will likely earn him interest from teams as the draft draws closer, and he'll get a chance to develop into a useful depth player off some team's bench. -- Woo Jamal Shead, PG, Houston: While still working his way back conditioning-wise from the ankle injury that ended his season in the Elite Eight, Shead opted to play at the combine and fared well, finishing with 14 points on 5-of-10 shooting and four assists. One of college basketball's top players, Shead earned a following after leading the Houston team, with a chance to follow in the footsteps of stylistically similar guards such as T.J. McConnell and Jose Alvarado into an NBA role. While known primarily for his defensive play and active hands, Shead, who is ranked No. 55 in our Top 100, also has positive qualities as a game manager, making excellent reads and passes and taking care of the ball. While he made 1 of 4 3-point attempts, he looked comfortable taking open catch-and-shoot looks, an area of growth for him to earn minutes. His playmaking skills and toughness are easy to appreciate if you can get past his size (6-1, 190). -- Woo Enrique Freeman, PF, Akron: Freeman has been on a good run this spring, working his way from Portsmouth into the G League Elite Camp and earning enough votes to make the combine, where he looked like he belonged. Freeman scored a game-high 17 points on 5-of-6 shooting and knocked down a pair of 3s, showing off inside-out versatility. While not a historically good shooter from range, Freeman seems to be developing that part of his game. He has enough skill to create mismatches in the post and was productive the past two years at Akron. After originally making the team at Akron as a walk-on with an academic scholarship, Freeman hit a late growth spurt and finished his career as the MAC Player of the Year. His mix of length, productivity and flashes of two-way ability at power forward, coupled with that late-blooming trajectory, should make him a solid two-way contract candidate as he proves he can hold his own. He's the type of underexposed player who can benefit from this part of the pre-draft process. -- Woo What's your biggest takeaway from Monday? Givony: Talk about a very productive first day at the NBA draft combine. The many NBA executives I spoke with seemed pleased with the format, participation and the way prospects competed. The league has found a home in the sparkling Wintrust Arena, with a huge staff that kept the 77 participating prospects flowing through drills, athletic testing and live action. The league avoided mass withdrawals from the competitive 5-on-5 action, so there's quite a bit to look forward to on Days 2 and 3. Bronny James, the USC point guard who ranks No. 98 in our Top 100, was a major standout in drills and athletic testing. Lottery-level prospects, such as Providence's Devin Carter, also elected to participate in competitive action and thoroughly improved their draft stock. Woo: It was a refreshing sight to walk into the arena first thing Monday and see a number of top prospects, including projected No. 1 pick Alex Sarr, Donovan Clingan and Zach Edey, warming up for drills and testing. Through changes to combine protocol in the new CBA, the NBA secured full participation from top prospects, including their medical information, in exchange for allowing agents into the building and making scrimmaging optional. These players aren't required to do much beyond measuring, athletic testing and shooting drills -- nobody would mistake this for a real eval setting. But the immediate feedback I heard from team personnel Monday was strongly positive. Having high-profile prospects partake in any type of action adds legitimacy to the combine. In recent years, lottery picks essentially never touched the court. This year, even the basic shooting drills were a sizable upgrade. The majority of teams won't be able to get these players into their buildings for workouts, so any opportunity to get eyes on them is helpful. For example, seeing players such as Clingan and Edey get out of their comfort zones launching 3s -- not to mention faring OK -- was a scene we never would have witnessed in years past and a tangible improvement to the pre-draft process overall. Who stood out during drills and scrimmages? Bronny James, PG, USC: With dozens of cameras tracking his every move, James had an overwhelmingly positive first day in Chicago, showing he more than deserves to be in attendance. He is in excellent shape, clearly having put on some good bulk from the end of the season. James tested extremely well athletically, with a 40½-inch inch vertical leap that placed him fourth highest among combine participants, a 32-inch no step vertical, a 3.02 second time in the shuttle run drill, 3.09 seconds in the three-quarter court sprint, and 10.96 seconds in the pro lane agility drill -- all solid marks relative to his peers. More impressive was how well he shot in drills, demonstrating a clean, compact stroke and outstanding accuracy in the 3-point star shooting drills (19-for-25, second best behind UConn's Alex Karaban) as well as the off-movement 3-point shooting drill, hitting 77% of his attempts in the side-mid-side pull-up shooting drill. While he looked bouncy in the transition drills, he showed some of his limitations as a ball handler and playmaker in the half-court pick-and-roll live action competition, where he was unlucky to run into one of the best defenders in college basketball in Providence's Carter. He also faced some extremely mobile big men (such as Arizona's Keshad Johnson, who had an outstanding day in his own right) who were making life miserable on opponents every play. This was a positive day for James, who looks to be in outstanding shape and has quite a bit to gain in the 5-on-5 scrimmaging Tuesday and Wednesday. -- Givony Zach Edey, C, Purdue: Edey, ranked No. 14 in our Top 100, measured exceptionally well, as expected (299 pounds, 7-foot-5 in shoes, with a near 7-foot-11 wingspan and a 9-foot-7½ standing reach). Those were unprecedented figures that we learned at last year's NBA draft combine before Edey withdrew from the draft. But he also tested better than last year, shaving off time from last year's pro lane agility drill, and measuring a solid vertical leap and three-quarter-court sprint time, showing the significant improvement he has made with his conditioning and mobility since electing to return to Purdue for his senior season. He also put on a pretty impressive showing in shooting drills, hitting 3s off movement, spotting up and pulling up off the dribble, showing some real potential in that area as he has long insisted he possesses. Edey has quite a few fans around the NBA at this point, and there are plenty of executives who say they have him ranked as a lottery pick, or even as a top-10 prospect because of how well he rates in their analytics models. -- Givony Devin Carter, PG, Providence: Carter (No. 17 in our Top 100) was our highest-ranked prospect to participate in Monday's optional 4-on-4 component, which, unsurprisingly, proved to be a good decision. Known for his toughness and physical style of play, Carter was his usual self in the drill setting, battling defensively and raising the energy level of others on the floor. He also tested quite well, recording an unofficial 42-inch max vertical (tied with Reed Sheppard and Trentyn Flowers for the top mark), 35-inch standing vertical (also tied for the top score), and setting a combine record for three-quarter-court sprint time. While he won't play in scrimmages this week, a solid day at the combine helped back up Carter's reputation as one of the draft's top defenders and athletes. He'll be a strong consideration for teams searching for NBA-ready backcourt help, and presuming he takes this momentum into private workouts, Carter could feasibly come off the board as high as the late lottery. -- Woo Rob Dillingham, PG, Kentucky: Dillingham, a projected top-five pick who ranks No. 4 in our Top 100, wasn't able to fully participate in the draft combine Monday. He sprained an ankle in a workout two weeks ago, Klutch Sports agent Lucas Newton told ESPN, and is expected to be out for another two to four weeks. Even with a more conservative timetable, Dillingham should have enough days available before the June 26 draft to conduct workouts with teams as needed, though he may not need to do more than a handful given his draft projections. -- Givony Nikola Topic, PG, Serbia: While players in Chicago were going through shooting drills, NBA executives could be seen nearly simultaneously pulling up their phones and witnessing a scary sight via social media as Topic went down with what appeared to be a serious injury in Game 1 of the Adriatic League finals in Belgrade, Serbia. In early January, Topic suffered a sprained left knee ligament, which cost him nearly 3½ months of action. Monday, he appeared to reinjure the same knee, looking unable to put any weight as he limped off the court in obvious distress. A postgame examination revealed Topic avoided serious injury, sources told ESPN, and he will not require surgery. His injury is being described as a left knee sprain. A source told ESPN that Topic "froze up" after feeling pain in his previously injured knee, but recovered quickly in the locker room. While this injury will keep Topic, who is ranked No. 5 in our Top 100, out of the remainder of the Adriatic League finals, he is still expected to be a full participant in a Global NBA pre-draft camp that the league is organizing in Treviso, Italy, from June 4-6. NBA teams will be taking a close look at the medical examination that will be conducted at this NBA combine equivalent in Treviso, which will be dispersed to teams picking in the top-15 portion of the draft according to new rules that were put in place in the CBA signed in 2023. -- Givony More notes, thoughts and things we heard from the combine Lowe: The latest draft intel, trade buzz and superstitions from inside the NBA's secret lottery room 2dZach Lowe NBA draft combine preview: New rules and five prospects to watch 4dJonathan Givony and Jeremy Woo Answering 14 questions on the NBA draft lottery: What now for the Hawks, Wizards and Rockets? 2dNBA Insiders While in Chicago, I took in a private workout featuring Clingan, G League Ignite's Matas Buzelis and Cairns Taipans' Bobi Klintman. While Buzelis' improving frame and highlight reel explosiveness were certainly notable, it's Clingan's development as a perimeter shooter that could really open some eyes in the pre-draft process as he makes his way to visit lottery teams. The center, who ranks No. 3 in our Top 100, has a natural shooting stroke, soft touch and real range that should make him a threat from the perimeter in the not-too-distant future. He spoke at length afterward about the importance of expanding this part of his game, and he continued to put that on display at the combine, where he made shots with varying consistency in drills. It's not entirely clear what Clingan's draft range looks like, as some of the teams that need centers the most -- such as the Portland Trail Blazers (No. 7) and Memphis Grizzlies (No. 9) -- moved down in the draft lottery. He has a natural suitor in the Washington Wizards at No. 2, but also some real competition from other prospects, such as Sarr and Zaccharie Risacher. -- Givony Baylor Scheierman, ranked No. 39 in our Top 100, had some positive buzz in the gym after a scorching shooting performance in drills, shooting 24-for-30 on pull-up jumpers (second best at combine) and 22-for-25 on spot-up 3s (tied for No. 1). The 23-year-old has good size for the wing, sharp basketball instincts and a plug-and-play NBA skill already with his dynamic shooting ability. He's likely to receive consideration from teams drafting in the first round thanks to his well-rounded profile, strong analytic model numbers and the outsized importance teams are placing on 3-point shooting. -- Givony Adem Bona, who ranks No. 49 in our Top 100, had a strong all-around day that suggests NBA teams should take a deeper look despite his up-and-down sophomore campaign. His measurements -- with a 9-foot standing reach and near 7-4 wingspan -- indicate he'll have little issue playing the center position at 243 pounds. He's clearly one of the best athletes in this draft as he reiterated with shuttle and sprint times comparable with many guards and an explosive 40-inch vertical that ranked second best among big men. Bona showed his power, mobility and intensity translates to the competitive 4-on-4 action as well, where he threw his body around and made his presence felt. While his rudimentary skill level and especially perimeter shooting might put a cap on his upside, he too could get looks starting in the late first round. -- Givony Power forward Ulrich Chomche is the youngest player in this draft class -- he turns 19 in December -- and is probably the most inexperienced prospect as well. Chomche, who ranks No. 40 in our Top 100, was closely watched by NBA teams who are still in an early stage of building their scouting files on him as he was in Senegal at the NBA Academy Africa. Chomche measured (7-4 wingspan, 234 pounds, 9-4 standing reach) and tested exceptionally well athletically, and did not look as raw as expected in drills and competitive action. NBA teams feel like his shooting will eventually be a strength, which combined with his impressive mobility and defensive versatility, gives him a chance to emerge as the type of switchable, rim-protecting, floor spacing big man that is hard to come by. It will take plenty of time and patience for him to step on an NBA court for meaningful minutes, but his upside suggests that a long-term thinking team could take a swing on him in the late first, or early second round. -- Givony Jesse Edwards, Isaac Jones, Enrique Freeman, Boogie Ellisand Nae'Qwan Tomlin -- and a solid group of prospects remained scheduled to play. While only one of ESPN's projected first-rounders is suiting up this week, Justin Edwards (No. 29), there are other top-ranked players who are expected to take the court Tuesday: Harrison Ingram (No. 34), Payton Sandfort (No. 35), Dillon Jones (No. 37), Izan Almansa (No. 38), Scheierman (No. 39) and Chomche (No. 40). NBA teams we've spoken with expect there to be significant opportunity for prospects to work their way into the first round, considering the wide discrepancy in opinion around the league surrounding the talent hierarchy in this draft. There are also some college players facing significant decisions on whether to return to school who might gain clarity this week, including Karaban and Florida State's Jamir Watkins. Bronny James is also currently expected to play, creating a real opportunity for him to continue to change the narrative around his season. -- Woo De'Andre Hunter, Dejounte Murray and Clint Capelabonuses. Unlikely incentives continue to count against the first and second apron even if they are not reached. Signing restricted free agent Saddiq Bey to either a qualifying offer or new contract would also push Atlanta over the second apron. As teams have pointed out, keep an eye on the Hawks' $23 million trade exception that is set to expire July 7. If Atlanta does not shed salary, the exception is not allowed in a trade. Atlanta would also not be allowed to aggregate contracts or take back more money in a trade if the acquiring salary leaves them over the second apron. Despite the bleak financial outlook, Capela (the Hawks' starting center) is on an expiring $22.3 million contract and could be expendable if Atlanta drafts Alex Sarr at No. 1. Also, outside of veteran Trae Young, no player on the Hawks' roster earns more than $25.5 million. -- Marks
Mavs only have a second round pick... which is AFTER the Lakers pick. How does that report make any sense?
He's my top choice for Pick #34.... ESPECIALLY if/when Simons gets traded. Top choice for Pick #40. Sign both Johnson & Chomche to 2-way deals and play them in the GLeague for a bit. Would be phenomenal.
Well, to be fair, I understand important things that matter in my life, so I'm very much okay not understanding something that has no bearing on my life. Wanna try again? I appreciated the effort.
You understand things like tying your shoes, counting to 20 (but only when your shoes are off), and how to wipe your own butt like a big boy!
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2024-25&dir=A&sort=PLAYER_NAME Don't know if it was posted in here yet or not, but measurements are officially listed on nba.com
The more I think about it, the more I'm interested in Ware at 14. Same size as Sarr with slightly bigger hands and wingspan, solid defensive metrics, demonstrated shooting range, and some of the best athletic numbers at the combine.
Some heights without shoes: Stephon Castle: 6'5.5" Ron Holland: 6'6.5" Adem Bona: 6'8.25" Ulrich Chomche: 6'10.25" Yves Missi: 6'10.75" Alexandre Sarr: 6'11.75" Kel'el Ware: 6'11.75"
