A heretical thought / And something about Orlando

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  1. LayneStaley

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    Give me Franz, WCJ, 6, and 11 and id do it.
     
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    That would be cruel to ship Dame there.
     
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    Lock this shit.
     
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    Exactly. Which is why I posted this scenario. Not saying it’s going to happen, of course, but it’s fun to think about, and what else is going on?

    It’s amusing to see so many people get their panties in a knot over this kind of thing.
     
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    What are you, 10 years old? Do your parents know what you’re doing right now?
     
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    See, I don't want to be argumentative or go down a rabbit hole, but if Dame Fucking Lillard is a super star as always proclaimed here, why can't he be traded to a team that has a couple of good pieces in Wagner and WCJ? Why can't he have a little sweat equity and help them over the top? Fuck sakes, super stars are supposed to lead their teams to titles, not be given them. Lebron leads every damn team he is on to the finals. Is it because he is 6'9? Do the refs just suck on his King James? What is it? Maybe Lillard can get free agents to Orlando. I know they pulled in TMac and Grant Hill in one off season. They could go after Grant too. I'm not saying I want him traded, I'm saying a super star should have higher expectations of their abilities than many on this site have. And with that said, why don't we just expect Dame to put on his super star pants when training camp opens and lead Portland to the title? Walton did it in his day with the youngest finals winner ever I believe. Walton, Hollins, Gross and Davis were all drafted by Portland. Even Twardzic was. We got Lucas in the dispersal draft. Walton was a star amongst men that title season, and then he pretty much made Lucas and Hollins into all stars along with him. He empowered Bobby Gross to have an incredible NBA Finals. Lillard is either a super star and a leader that can put a team on his back and make other players better, or he is just a player that makes all star teams and needs other stars for playoff success. And I really have no desire to discuss this, you all can if you want. I'm just throwing it out and glad it is.
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If Orlando were to trade for Dame, they would only do so if they could add him to primarily the same squad that went 29-24 after their terrible start. There would be no point to them to acquire Dame if they had to give up two starters to do so.

    It would make sense, however, for Orlando to offer players like Fultz and Isaac along with their two lottery picks for Dame. Portland would likely need more than that, but it's one of the more reasonable proposals I've seen, and I believe that it would make Orlando an HCA-level team.
     
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    To further explain, I didn't imply Portland would get Wagner and WCJ. Dame would be added to them. I was going with the trade discussed in the link. We would get the 6, 11 and salaries to make it work. Pretty sure Portland has no need for Fulz, Suggs or Isaac. If any of them had value, make it a 3 team trade.
     
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    Blazers trade Lillard to Orlando.

    During halftime of his first home game in Orlando, Lillard comes out dressed as a drag queen and starts reading stories to all the children in attendance.

    Lillard is immediately arrested and banned from the state of Florida.

    Orlando buys out Lillard's contract and he is released from the team.

    Blazers sign Lillard for the vet minimum.

    Win/Win/Win
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dame challenges Desantis to a rap battle. He vanquishes the wannabe fascist and assumes control of the governorship and turns Florida into a paradise.
     
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    That is the equivalent of his post.
     
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    My parent has passed away Bongo head.
     
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    And according to some of your post, you should be asking the same .
     
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    Wow. You’re one classy guy, aren’t you?
     
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    I would add to that, which is excellent, Portland doesn’t owe Lillard anything. They’ve made him one of the richest players in the NBA and treated him like a favorite son. If Orlando offered the best deal, they would be stupid not to take it. What are they supposed to do—send him wherever he wants to go, even if it’s a crappy deal for them?
     
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    Have you thought that maybe Portland doesn't want to trade him , Period! The dude is an All NBA talent at the height of his ability. Add some extra talent and who knows what the outcome will be. I know this, Dame is a generational talent. None of us know if any of these incoming players , outside of Wemby , will even be a star. It's all speculation. Orlando, and you Dame haters can want him gone all you want.
     
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    Ye ol' Jonathan Isaac. That dude may never be healthy.
     
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    Sorry, I misread your post.

    Fultz is a quality backup PG, and could likely be easily dealt at the deadline. Isaac (as stated by @tykendo) may never be healthy, but there's no reason not to keep him around for a couple years while we rebuild. Gotta spend that salary money somewhere.
     
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    First, I did not call for Dame to be traded. I implied he needs to lead his team to the title, be that Portland, Orlando or any other team.
    Second, Portland will be adding extra talent. They have the 3rd and 23rd picks in the draft. They have a TPE and players to deal.
    Third, you certainly disagree with most here that think Scoot will be a star, your choice. Same with Miller. Not trying to persuade you.
    Fourth, not a Dame hater but a Portland Trailblazer fan first. Big difference.

    It does not make you a Dame hater if you think Dame's loyalty to "his guys" has cost him opportunities at title runs along with a GM over valuing players he drafted. If it makes sense for the Blazers to make a move, any move, they should do it. People are being paid a lot of money to bring a title to Portland. Just do it. Cue Phil Knight.
     
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