Science A Mysterious, Powerful Force is Flinging Radio Waves at Us From Deep Space

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    Our universe is teeming with invisible light. Beyond the visible spectrum, space is a colorful mess of radio signals and microwaves fired off by flaring "suns," collapsing stars, crackling magnetic fields, roiling dust clouds and seething black holes.

    Then, there's the light nobody understands — mysterious, ultrastrong sparks of energy zipping billions of light-years across the universe from unknown origins, for unknown reasons.

    Puzzling pulses like these are sometimes called fast radio bursts (FRBs), because they may last just a few milliseconds. On the morning of July 25, one such burst of mysterious energy whizzed past a new array of radio telescopes nestled in the mountains of British Columbia, Canada, registering one of the rarest radio frequencies ever detected.

    According to a statement released in The Astronomer's Telegram (a bulletin board of astronomical observations posted by accredited scientists), the mystery signal — named FRB 180725A after the year, month and day it was detected — transmitted in frequencies as low as 580 megahertz, nearly 200 MHz lower than any other FRBs ever detected.

    "These events have occurred during both the day and night, and their arrival times are not correlated with known on-site activities or other known sources," wrote Patrick Boyle, author of the Astronomer's Telegram report and a project manager for the Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment (CHIME) — the radio telescope that detected the strange new signature.

    The pulse's fast, low frequency suggests that the blast was extremely bright and originated from an insanely powerful source somewhere in the cosmos. Studying the peculiar signal could give astronomers better clues as to how these extragalactic radio waves form and where they're coming from.

    "Fast radio bursts are exceedingly bright given their short duration and origin at great distances, and we haven't identified a possible natural source with any confidence," Avi Loeb, a scientist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who was not involved in the discovery, said last year in a statement related to new research on these bursts.

    He added that an "artificial origin" of the signals (i.e., extraterrestrial intelligence) is worth considering. Other possible origins include supernovas (exploding stars), supermassive black holes or various other sources of mighty electromagnetic radiation, such as pulsars.

    FRBs remain an utter mystery to astronomers and routinely draw the curiosity of alien hunters. The signals are, by nature, extremely brief and travel exceedingly far across space; pinpointing a precise source of such elusive pulses is no easy feat. On top of this, only about 40 or so FRBs have been detected on Earth since they were first discovered in 2007, so research on them remains sparse.

    But despite FRBs' relative rarity in astronomy, they are probably a regular cosmic occurrence, Christopher Conselice, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Nottingham who was not involved in the discovery, told The Daily Mail. FRBs may even reach our planet thousands of times a day, Conselice said; we just haven't built enough tools to detect them all yet.

    The latest mystery signal was detected by CHIME, a state-of-the-art radio telescope that looks like a skateboarder's half-pipe in the mountains of British Columbia. CHIME was designed to detect ancient radio waves sent out when the universe was just a toddler, some 6 billion to 11 billion years ago. Though it has been in operation for only about a year, it has already detected several noteworthy FRBs, including several more low-frequency signals that followed shortly after the noteworthy FRB 180725A last week.

    https://www.livescience.com/63254-mystery-frb-detected-canada.html
     
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    CHIME is 21 miles north of the border with Washington State. California's Allen Telescope Array is 80 miles south of the Oregon border.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Hydrogen_Intensity_Mapping_Experiment
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    These sort of unknown signals have been detected before and there's always been a logical reason discovered after some time. I'm sure they'll find a logical reason for these signals.
     
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    I listen to SETI's podcast from time to time. I've always wondered if there was ever moment like in the movie Contract where a large amount of alien data was captured who would own it? Paul Allen or SETI? It would instantly become they most famous/expensive piece of media ever. Something like the Zapruder film on alien steroids. Also just decoding something like that could lead to huge advances in mathematics.
     
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    Articles like this often use terms that I do not understand how they go together.
    Example;
    "The pulse's fast, low frequency suggests that the blast was extremely bright"

    While also speaking of it as 580 mhz. 580 is not visible light, it is in the digital TV frequency, so how can it be characterized as extremely bright? It is also a line of sight frequency but it can be received and redirected naturally, so how the hell do they know where the origin is?
     
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    Here I was thinking that the signal was from Gov Browns home world, telling her to return...




    And then my man has to go all science on me...damn.
     
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    Just checking to see what the Trump haters might know.
     
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    Really? Gotta turn this into a political thread too huh
     
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    In general, many in the astronomics realm equate "brightness" with "amplitude" outside the visible spectrum. Think night-vision devices and such. I mean, technically it could also equate to "loud", but they didn't use that.
    And I won't even go into Fouriers and such...
     
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    They don't know the origin
     
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    Maybe Paul Manafort placed some money in an intergalactic bank, and they are sending information about it to Mueller
     
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    Trump Dick Sucking? I'll just have to take your word for it...
     
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    Cracks me up. I am reading a book on the Spanish American War, the long and short of it is that the big players in the media, Hurst and Pulitzer, wanted the headlines that war produces. The worked in conjunction with big business who lobbied their in pocket political cronies, recruited a self made hero TDR to lead the charge..

    All this time has passed, and the same thing is still happening.
     
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    So, you are saying its like Chinese food?
     
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    People often fear in others what they dislike about themselves....
     
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    I can tell you anything you want to know about Chinese food....in English or in Mandarin
     
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