Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    9.7%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    62.1%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.4%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    24.8%
  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    how hard is it to understand these stats? Most are fairly basic

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    if you want something a little more basic, CJ averaged 1.09 points/shot; Simmons averaged 1.51

    there is also the infamous on/off +/- stat that so many put stock in

    for CJ:

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    for Simmons:

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    I watched Philly too and my take is that Simmons had about 3 bad stretches against against Atlanta and that's all that anybody is focused on
     
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    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ors-rejected-offer-for-lowry-vanvleet-anunoby

    I'm not sure what to make of this and how it relates to a possible CJ trade:

     
  3. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    It means that Morey is trying to pump Simmons's value up by asking for preposterous returns so he can turn around and make a little less but still unreasonable request and get it. I don't think it will work and I still think CJ is the player they need. We'll see. The shit that you hear about usually isn't the shit that goes down (that's not supposed to have anything to do with plumbing).
     
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    Is Lowry under contract to be traded? Honestly I'd prefer Beal first and then Lowry depending on what else Toronto throws in for Philly. If we're stuck at just CJ and DJJ then I'm afraid we will be outbid but let's see.
     
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    Lowry would be a sign and trade in that deal so he does have that much value. I would prefer CJ over Lowry if I'm looking for scoring and someone who will be with the team for more than two seasons (when Lowry is moving like a geriatric). I would prefer CJ over Beal just because CJ would come with assets and Beal would cost the Sixers more than just Simmons... I think.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    All of this crap is to try to recover some value on Simmons.
     
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    That proposal is crazy when you figure that they'd have to tamper with Lowry to agree to S&T, and then pick at #4 for Philly, and hope nothing happens where Lowry decides to go elsewhere. S&Ts with current year draft picks just don't happen.
     
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    If this is for real, you give up whatever you have to in order to get Ben to play with Dame. I think that CJ and RoCo with future picks would get it done and keep Dame here... or because Nurk isn't the best fit with Ben you get the best value for him and send that with CJ and still probably some picks.
     
  9. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Ben is 6’9.5” w/o shoes and a solid 240lbs

    That’s at or near a full 6’11” in shoes.

    He’s a legit big:

     
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  10. illmatic99

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    Man all this tells me is how short our team is. Especially our playing rotation
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Ben’s wingspan is 7’0.25” which is kinda meh, however, his reach is 9’0.5” — he has legit size to play PF/C.
     
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    More nonsense from Morey: O'Connor on his podcast said Morey was asking for 4 firsts, three swaps, and a young player from the Spurs for Simmons.

    This dude bout to get ostracized if he keeps making these bullshit offers.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He can ask for it, but any team that gives him that is foolish.
     
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    And another Ben nugget from Amick amid the dame noise:

     
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    they're gonna stop taking his phone calls. it's funny people think Olshey isn't making his best offer now, when other GMs like Morey are throwing out such nonsense. The level of delusion coming from Philly is insane right now.
     
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    He said Big Man never said SQUAT about Simmons talk about reading more into this --- if anything this should start a new thread saying -- Dame wants Nurk out and more athletic Big next to him ......

    OR

    Should read -- Dame wants Nurk to lose weight and become more athletic
     
  17. Mr. Robot

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    1. dame considers nurk his brother, he would never do that to him (ask for athletic center instead of nurk)
    2. perhaps he likes playing with athletic center (adebayo), nothing wrong with that
    3. dame probably wouldnt be against moving nurk, if it improves the team
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Morey is fucking out of his mind.
     
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    I still think it's posturing. Morey is basically throwing these offers out to say what he "needs" in return for Simmons. I guarantee it's to get another first rounder or two out of a team like us. Morey is no fool and as long as he has a very available asset like Ben, GMs will not only continue to take his calls but they will continue to call him. Then one GM will find some place in between what they once were willing to offer and these trade proposals from Morey that have them rolling their eyes.

    I said it before, this guy is in a hard spot after what his head coach and best player did to his second most valuable player and he's just trying to get the best deal possible because this guy will trade Ben Simmons before the season. It's in Morey's DNA to have to trade assets that he has an itch to trade.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This dude is acting like Simmons has the same value as Dame.
     

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