Only Olshey would use "ideal vehicle" to describe draft night. Maybe i'm reading too much into this..... My biggest takeaway is that Simmons also wants out and the situation in Philly is untenable.
Is there indication that either Olshey or Morey are even interested in a Simmons deal? I mean even in the scenario of a Dame trade request, I cannot imagine us dealing Dame for Simmons.
I dunno, I guess in this theoretical trade you can then start Little which isn't the worst thing but is he ready? I think Little actually has borderline All-Star potential that isn't close to being tapped, that said Roco is actually the last guy on the team I want to trade not named Lillard. If Olshey is smart (I know hahahaha), he will keep Dame, Powell, RoCo and build around them. I'd also like to keep Nas and Ant if at all possible just for salary vs. output reasons as taking on Simmons or Siakam is really going to strain the payroll once we re-sign Powell. I'm going to keep dreaming of Siakam and Simmons until it happens or circumstances force me to abandon the fantasy for other reasons. My only hesitation on Simmons, literally the sole argument against him that actually does give me pause is the trade kicker. He will cost a fortune and that makes Nas and Ant wayyyy more important to keep. I still throw in one or the other to get Simmons if need be. When I consider Simmons Salary then Roco + CJ becomes slightly more palatable, but then I want to throw in picks and have Thybulle coming with Simmons. That's just really clearing the cabinet of Vets I trust. RoCo is my #2 building block next to Dame everyone else is far more tradeable, but again the salary thing makes Little as starting SF next to Simmons at the 4 as something you have to consider with RoCo making more than 5x what Little does.
Here's Woj from the Jump today (3 min mark or so) "they're asking for a lot, almost a Harden-esque type package of all player, draft picks, pick swaps. That's where you'll start." "i don't get the sense that they're close yet."
I shared in one of the many ongoing threads, while 3rd-hand, a staffer in the league on another team said they are absolutely discussing CJ/Simmons packages. Wasn't, like, a janitor type either, the guy would know. So yes, in at least some capacity, it sounds like that's been discussed at some degree of seriousness.
I don't see any way Simmons goes back to Philly. That thing got real ugly. Morey's got to make himself look good, asking for a so-called haul. But that situation is potentially toxic.
Spurs turned them down. Would you guys make this trade? We’d get to keep CJ and Dame but we’d give up our entire future.
They reportedly asked for Lowry, VanVleet, Anunoby, the 4th pick, and future picks from the Raptors for Simmons. Morey is, in the opinion of Raptors fans, "smoking dick" thinking he'll get that kind of package from any team after Simmons tanked his value last month.
daryl morey has nothing to lose, hes trying to rob someone and if it works out, great, it it doesnt work out, hell have to settle for some realistic offer his job is to do whatever it takes to improve the team and hes not afraid to make moves, even if they are risky moves... id much rather have a guy like that, than a guy like neil olshey if that prick cp3 had stay healthy, theyd likely win a chip that year
this is already being discussed in our 18 page Ben Simmons thread. http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/ben-simmons-poll.366975/page-17#post-5203478
They never should’ve traded CP3 for Westbrook. This could’ve been their year if they kept the band together.
