Evan Turner: Sixth Man of the Year

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He's no Lonzo Ball.
     
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    Unfortunately, this will be the case. But guys like Sabonis/Lou Will will get more pub.
     
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    Even you, huh? Ha ha! After 3 seasons, Turner has finally ascended to the mediocre level of an average NBA substitute, and fanboys go bananas.

    Praise Olshey and Stotts for only taking 3 years! Most GMs and head coaches spend 18 years working an $18M player into the bench rotation.

    Last season's PER of 9.9 is temporarily up to 13.4...give him the league MIP trophy now, before it goes back down. These guys are impressed!

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/mip.html
     
  4. Scalma

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    A 13.4 PER for a bench player is objectively above average. The league average for starters is around 14-15. It also falls in line with his PER in Boston, the last time he had the same role, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be sustainable.
     
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    Yes it is for a substitute, but as you see from the list I linked, MIP winners are much better than that.
     
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    Good thing I didn’t say anything about MIP.
     
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    He's basically Lonzo Ball with defense.

    That's actually a really good comparison for Lonzo. Well, not so great for Lonzo, but it's accurate.
     
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    His ws/48 is better than at least three of those players’ right now. Won’t even get into the overall numbers.
     
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    There are true 6th men (6th on the team in mpg) and there are masked crusader 6th men (he subs for a decoy starter who gets token minutes). I haven't checked, but how many on that list were pretend substitutes like Turner is for Layman? That would tell me whether voters fall for it.

    We played a near-perfect game tonight against an elite team. If we end in the elite, Turner might get some votes from national TV visibility. But not if our record is the same as last year.
     
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    But since your super-scientific prediction method has us as a 57-win team this year, that shouldn't be a problem, right?
     
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    Right down to each being the #2 overall pick in his draft class.
     
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    This thread did not age well.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Neither did Evan Turner.

    BNM
     
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    Has he forgotten how to use him recently? Is that who we should blame now since we were giving him credit then?

    Honest question.
     
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    Turners most productive month was when his usage was the lowest (but still saw 20+ minutes)

    So far in March he’s seeing only 13 minutes a game, and his usage is way down. So maybe Stotts should share some blame.

    The general feeling I have is Stotts doesn’t get the most out of players not named Dame and CJ, so I’m not sure he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Turner has nursed some injuries this year but he has not improved at all since coming back from injury. I think he would be doing a little better if Jake was hitting some shots. I also think he would be doing better with Zach rather than Kanter. But not enough better to warrant bringing him back next year.
     
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