Haywood and Mike Miller to Portland

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It would appear NO thinks so, or he could have taken Xmas instead of what's behind door number 2019.

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    Christmas in July would have been wonderful though
     
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    First, nobody really goes to "lengths" to protect him. People defend a move. People understand moves made. Some don't. Some whine about anything done now, because of what happened previously, with losing Aldridge.
    Cleveland doesn't have their 1st net year. So if you held out for that, it'd be like holding out for sex with my grandpa. He's gone. It's gone. Not gonna happen. Alright?
    Philly has been more than willing to take on salary for picks lately. We took on 2.8 million for 2 2nds. You can bitch and moan about expecting more, but that for one, wasn't going to happen, and B, it was already money spent. Anything up to the floor, Paul has to pay. So that went somewhere, and here, it went for 2 2nds. We traded 2 2nds for Robin Lopez recently. Nice asset to have. We helped them, sure. And they helped us with 2 picks. They could have went to Philly. You tell them to get lost, and then instead of 2.8 for 2 picks, it's 2.8 for nothing. Brilliant strategy. Glad you're not our GM.
     
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    It's not currently an issue of them panning out. They're 2 assets. 2 assets we didn't have prior to this trade.
     
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    Other pets that my parents allowed me to name as a child:

    I got a calico cat, I named it Calico.

    I got a rabbit, I named it Hairy, because it was a hare.

    I got a duck and I named it... Rubber.

    I was not the most imaginative child when it came to naming pets.
     
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    You're not going to sell me on the idea he is doing ok. I feel he could have gotten more. It didn't have to be next years pick. It could have been the next year or the year after.

    Cleveland is going to be good for awhile.
     
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    I can see you out searching for your pet rooster... "Hey lady, have you seen my Cock"?

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    Well good for you. I feel he could have got LeBron. He didn't. What a shitty gm!
     
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    If we gave up nothing then we aren't limited by what we could have gotten because we have more assets today than the "could have" that you haven't really been able to provide as a hypothetical.
     
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    Roughly translated as: "The logic of your position is irrelevant; I have already decided that my purely speculative opinion is fact, despite any potential evidence or argument to the contrary."
     
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    It's less hypothetical than the $75K number that you guys keep bandying about as the total price we paid to avoid getting a Cavs player for free. I see that right after the trade with us, they traded Dellavedova. They delayed that in case we wanted him. They have well over 15 players and we could have gotten one or two substitutes worth more than a 2nd round pick.

    I'm still in the middle of this thread, reading your sarcastic posts.
     
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    Now you're just making up shit. I expect more from you. Sad.
     
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    It doesn't matter how much Olshey paid. It's money that was just lying around doing nothing, and has to be spent on either something, or nothing, so he spent it on something. Of course he could have just not done the deal, ended up with the money left lying there at the end of the year, and forfeited however much it was, with nothing in return. I prefer the two tradeable assets, at no extra cost.
     
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    We know what we got. You are guessing at what we could have gotten. I believe your guess is wrong and you overvalue our leverage in this trade.
     
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    What the hell? You want me to quote them all? I'm plowing through acres of sarcastic manure in the middle of the thread.

    So do you want me to cite them for you in a big long post? Are you on acid, or did you simply recently go blind?

    The number is 75K or 150K, often posted as the only price we paid, in effect. I'll go through the pages if you want me to make a long post to show you.
     
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    I believe its safe to assume Neil didn't want Christmas. We already have 14 players with guaranteed contracts. I'm sure the team scouted him at the draft; if they aren't interested then a future pick has far more value.
     
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    Only 3 years of failure...

    It's more than enuff.
     
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    I don't believe there is any chance a team gives up a first round pick for this type of deal that may very well net them nothing. Think of it from the other end; would we have traded Kaman and a first round pick at the draft to get a trade exception? No change in hell. A trade needs to make sense to both teams. Other NBA teams are interested in Miller and would've for sure taken him with a worse second round pick than we got. Haywoods contract can be cut. Doing those moves would've saved the Cavs the same amount of money under the luxury tax.
     
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