Hopefully some of y'all can quit dogging Terry MF Stotts now

[BBert]

it's almost comical looking at those 4 snapshots

I'm crying, but not because I'm laughing.

 

[TBpup]

Really? I haven't missed a game since Brandon Roy's rookie year.

Stop. It's completely untrue.

To be fair, Portland has one of the slowest paces in the league for a reason. Dame seemingly doesn't want to push the tempo. He does walk the ball up the court very often and slows it down many times when the Blazers have an advantage. Don't know about the '17-second' thing but with how 'young' the Blazers have been for years, to not take advantage of those young legs more often does seem to be missed opportunities.

 

[BlayZa]

i gotta say, i do see a lot of times people bringing up the ball, mostly dame, where i find myself wondering why he doesnt westbrook the acceleration n get to the hoop.

we dont really 'attack' the other team, we pass a lot and have a ton of great spacing etc but outside of CJ we dont have many willing to just get in there. layman maybe, he's always looking for paths to the hoop but just never gets minutes.

it'd just be nice to think we had some other options when the mid range and deep shots arent working out.

 

[Reep]

i gotta say, i do see a lot of times people bringing up the ball, mostly dame, where i find myself wondering why he doesnt westbrook the acceleration n get to the hoop.

we dont really 'attack' the other team, we pass a lot and have a ton of great spacing etc but outside of CJ we dont have many willing to just get in there. layman maybe, he's always looking for paths to the hoop but just never gets minutes.

it'd just be nice to think we had some other options when the mid range and deep shots arent working out.

We used to. I remember them talking about getting into the lane before the defense could set up. But, that was a long time ago

 

[noknobs]

 

[Minstrel]

I think it’s comical that they evidently have to “look at the tape” to figure out the problem. If idiots like myself can see the problem as it’s happening live, surely a coach with decades of experience should as well, no? I mean, it’s literally his job?

Until he checks the tape, he can't be sure the Blazers aren't still up against Russell Westbrook. He's playing the exact same coverage on Curry as Westbrook.

 

[calvin natt]

Blazers beat a OKC team that had never won a Playoff series without Durant. Props!

Blazers beat a Denver team that almost everyone thought was one of the most overrated #2 seeds in quite some time and was in their first Playoff series as a current roster. Still more Props!

But because Dame buries a 37'er and Portland takes advantage of Denver choking away a 3-2 lead with Game 7 at home, doesn't really make me a huge Stotts believer. Seeing what he did (and didn't do) against a true contending team without their best player tells me a lot more about his coaching ability.

I love type of posts. Ignore everything and chalk them up as flukes but focus on the negatives as “real”

 

[blue9]

Really? I haven't missed a game since Brandon Roy's rookie year.

Stop. It's completely untrue.

Except it's not. You delete the games from your DVR? Before calling me a liar go watch and see how many times Dame cross the line at 17 seconds. It's a lot.

 

[BlayZa]

We used to. I remember them talking about getting into the lane before the defense could set up. But, that was a long time ago

i think its the only way dame will get the superstar calls but really pushing things, initiating offense at pace, initiating contact n pretty taking the challenge to the other team.

my god we really miss having a slasher.

 

[TBpup]

I love type of posts. Ignore everything and chalk them up as flukes but focus on the negatives as “real”

Like ignoring where I gave them Props....and then more Props? Also, not one time is there a reference to the wins being flukes. #FakeNews

 

[dviss1]

To be fair, Portland has one of the slowest paces in the league for a reason. Dame seemingly doesn't want to push the tempo. He does walk the ball up the court very often and slows it down many times when the Blazers have an advantage. Don't know about the '17-second' thing but with how 'young' the Blazers have been for years, to not take advantage of those young legs more often does seem to be missed opportunities.

Slowest pace doesn't mean every time we get the ball over half court at 1 second before the count.

Except it's not. You delete the games from your DVR? Before calling me a liar go watch and see how many times Dame cross the line at 17 seconds. It's a lot.

My DVR is a cloud DVR so no. I should have rephrased that. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm calling you an exaggerator.

Sure it happened some BUT he didn't:

get over half-court with 1 second to spare nearly every single time.

That is simply untrue.

 

[TBpup]

Slowest pace doesn't mean every time we get the

Which is why I didn't say 'every time'.

 

[handiman]

I know the athletes are creatures of habit, but you are disrupting the habit more by foregoing shoot around than moving it up 90 minutes.

It fits the pattern of Stotts being unwilling to make changes to the starting lineup, and moving glacially slow at changing in-game substitution patterns. It's looking more and more like his game time rigidity flows from his doing the same with practices. There can't be much preparation for things like trapping defenses if he can't even get a practice in between games or move a shoot-around up 90 minutes.

 

[blue9]

Slowest pace doesn't mean every time we get the


My DVR is a cloud DVR so no. I should have rephrased that. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm calling you an exaggerator.

Sure it happened some BUT he didn't:



That is simply untrue.

Okay, way to call out internet exaggeration.
It happens a lot though - to the point where my buddy and I could have made a drinking game out of it during the DEN series.

 

[dviss1]

Okay, way to call out internet exaggeration.
It happens a lot though - to the point where my buddy and I could have made a drinking game out of it during the DEN series.

Meh... I still don't agree that it happened as much as you say. I'd wager it happens 20% of the time at best.

 

[kjironman1]

But Stotts is correct that Steph just scored 33 IN A HALF against traps. You can call him defensive, he was, but he still had a good point. With Durant out,

Wait a minute? You mean to tell me he wasn't using green font when he said that?
People on this board don't want to hear that. No way Curry could score while being trapped. The Blazers Must use the trap or Stotts just isn't a good coach.

 

[Scalma]

Wait a minute? You mean to tell me he wasn't using green font when he said that?
People on this board don't want to hear that. No way Curry could score while being trapped. The Blazers Must use the trap or Stotts just isn't a good coach.

You’re right, we should just continue to allow curry to get wide open looks and pray he misses. Maybe the series ends in four instead of six.

 

[kjironman1]

You’re right, we should just continue to allow curry to get wide open looks and pray he misses. Maybe the series ends in four instead of six.

Nobody said "Wide Open Looks". The word is "Trap", and i will use green font next time. Because some are a bit touchy after losing game 1 to the Champions in their gym during the Western Conference Finals.

 

[BBert]

You’re right, we should just continue to allow curry to get wide open looks and pray he misses. Maybe the series ends in four instead of six.

I think you're on to something. This way, our guys would definitely get more rest.

 

[BBert]

Nobody said "Wide Open Looks". The word is "Trap", and i will use green font next time. Because some are a bit touchy after losing game 1 to the Champions in their gym during the Western Conference Finals.

I haven't sensed that the complaints are 'that' we lost, but rather the complaints are 'how' we lost.

Blazers were a laughing stock after that performance, starting with the coaching schemes which were called out repeatedly by two knowledgeable former coaches, and ending with the lousy performance of our players.

Everyone saying we would be swept are sitting pretty smugly right now.

I can't wait for the Blazers to disappoint them and wipe that smug off their faces!

 

[Minstrel]

Because some are a bit touchy after losing game 1 to the Champions in their gym during the Western Conference Finals.

No, people don't like that Stotts employed a stupid scheme against Curry. You seem fixed on the result, when actually Stotts' critics are focusing on the process.

To put it more simply: even if the Blazers had won the game, employing a drop coverage against Curry and gifting him wide-open three pointers would have been stupid.

You don't employ a scheme that's predicated on leaving the shooter free against the greatest shooter in league history. It wasn't a dumb strategy against Westbrook, because Westbrook can't shoot straight--it is dumb against Curry.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'll tell you what i will be clear about. I guarantee without question that if the Blazers lose game two the mundane posters that will call out Stotts will be here in full force. If the Blazers make adjustments and hit some open looks while playing solid defense with more energy that leads to a win those same posters will say that those are the adjustments they were all talking about and it's about time that Stotts finally did what they were saying to do.
If the Blazers lose this series the Stotts haters will say it was because of him and his shortcomings and give GS absolutely no credit for being an overall better team like all of us know they are but a few are unwilling to admit because it doesn't fit their narrative.
If the Blazers win and go to the Finals then Stotts will be safe until the first loss in the Finals where all the same posters will come at him again and try to spew their drivel about him being sub par and too set in his ways and how they are sick and tired of being the only one's who can see the obvious reasons that the team lost a game.

I hope that is clear enough for you.

There i said what well over 90% of the rest of the fan base thinks about this situation. Have at it.

Hmmm. A lot of words there, but no answer to the question.

Given the cap situation, there is no second chance here. This was their one shot for who knows how many seasons. Do you honestly think Stotts has done everything possible to help the team take advantage?

I hold Stotts and Olshey to a high standard because I want the team to win. 10 years ago the GSW were a bad team - now they are a great team. Always falling short is not inevitable. If the Warriors can go from joke franchise to NBA powerhouse, so can the Blazers. The difference, is that the Warriors didn't just settle. They changed coaches and GMs until they got the right group in place.

Aw hell....just put me on ignore. You will never agree with the point I am trying to make, and ignoring me will be better for your peace of mind.

 

[calvin natt]

Like ignoring where I gave them Props....and then more Props? Also, not one time is there a reference to the wins being flukes. #FakeNews

You blatantly downplay the wins as not legit wins but the loss vs three time world champ is definitely real. Pick a lane.

 

[BonesJones]

Here is Neil speaking about this summer:


https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest...ers-insight-deals-kept-blazers-alive-playoffs

So this is it. No big fish hunting for us.

Yay, were going to be WORSE next season. This is the peak guys.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Yay, were going to be WORSE next season. This is the peak guys.

This is the core of my current anger. There is no "wait till next year" here. How long has it been since their last appearance in the WCF? How long until the next one? Our only realistic chance to win this series was to steal game 1 and then fight like hell to win the games in the Moda. We were still likely to lose, but at least we could have said the Blazers did their best.

 

[BonesJones]

The thing is, I don't think Olshey has the creativity keep us at the same level this off-season.

He's made solid moves this year but it was things like signing a bought out free agent, and trading two scrubs and two 2nd round picks for a guy with no bird rights.

It sounds like we'll be back to having another Nik Stauskas playing significant minutes next to Evan Turner off the bench next year. With Nurkic out, we might miss the playoffs next season....

 

[TBpup]

You blatantly downplay the wins as not legit wins but the loss vs three time world champ is definitely real. Pick a lane.

I blatantly stated facts.....I see where that was confusing. Still gave them props....twice. Somehow, that keeps being selectively missed.

 

[wizenheimer]

Wait a minute? You mean to tell me he wasn't using green font when he said that?
People on this board don't want to hear that. No way Curry could score while being trapped. The Blazers Must use the trap or Stotts just isn't a good coach.

why does it always have to be one extreme or the other around here?

the best defense is unpredictable in the way it attacks. You don't trap every time because that could then be anticipated. But for fucksakes, you don't drop the big 10-15' back from the point of attack every damn time either...which is what the Blazers did. Golden State spent the entire game anticipating, correctly, what the Blazers were going to do on screens and picks. They fucking knew they'd be open and have little pressure.

not only do you have to vary the defense at the point of attack, you have to vary the aggressiveness too. Portland was the same level of passive the same way on the same plays, over and over.

 

[kjironman1]

why does it always have to be one extreme or the other around here?

the best defense is unpredictable in the way it attacks. You don't trap every time because that could then be anticipated. But for fucksakes, you don't drop the big 10-15' back from the point of attack every damn time either...which is what the Blazers did. Golden State spent the entire game anticipating, correctly, what the Blazers were going to do on screens and picks. They fucking knew they'd be open and have little pressure.

not only do you have to vary the defense at the point of attack, you have to vary the aggressiveness too. Portland was the same level of passive the same way on the same plays, over and over.

Woah gear down there turbo.
This is entertainment. S2 is entertainment. Stay on the bright side and enjoy the series.

 

[BonesJones]

Woah gear down there turbo.
This is entertainment. S2 is entertainment. Stay on the bright side and enjoy the series.

Hmmm... Whats that smell... hmm... I smell... I smell....

Deflection!