[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    yeah I don't really know anything about the trading rules.
    I just think Okafor is in play. I'd rather have him than Monroe.
    Really do think the Blazers will get one of those and slide Plumlee down to his more natural 4 position... well if he's not in the trade.
     
  2. Harry's Raincoat

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    We don't have many trade assets so I'll leave that option to others.

    My order of preference for Free Agent signings is: Durant, LJames, Drummond, Whiteside, HBarnes, DeRozen.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You could sign and trade either of them, or Meyers, but I think they would have to go out as the solo asset. You can't package them with anyone else. So if a team REALLY wanted Crabbe, and we didn't want to overpay to keep him, we could sign-and-trade him for assets. That's about it though. And once they do sign, they're not trad-able until something like December of January.
     
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    If we look at the GSW as a model to emulate this is what they run...

    Scoring PG
    Shooting SG
    All Purpose SF
    Tweener SF
    Center
    Bench is built on versatility. They don't have a true PF that plays.

    Using that formula we kind of have a poor mans developing version of it

    Scoring PG - Lillard
    Shooting SG - McCollum
    All Purpose SF - Harkless
    Tweener SF - Aminu
    Center - Plumlee

    I think this lineup suits Stott's system very well. The big difference between the Blazers and Warriors is the Warriors are better at every single position. the 2 SF positions in particular are lacking in the abiligty to shoot the ball. The other thing is the Warriors don't have a "Dominant" post presence on offense, Neither do the Clippers or Thunder. We need someone who can score in the paint but it can be like the way Draymond Green does. So evaluating the FA market I'm looking less for the "Traditional" position fits and more for the New Warriors age fits.

    Also in terms of FA, Portland has a rare alignment of circumstances. Runner up COY, EOY. MIP, articles and reputation of Lillard being one of the best pure leaders in the league. The 2nd best backcourt in the league, 3rd youngest roster in the league, a team on the upswing, fantastic well known chemistry, a solid core and max $$$ to spend (like everyone else unfortunately)... But essentially aside from Market size, which is having less and less impact, the Trail Blazers have everything a FA would be looking for. Most teams are at the top stagnant, sliding down or at the bottom. Portland, Boston and Charlotte are the 3 teams already moving up. Agents see this as a massive positive. Portland is a buzz team and city.
     
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    I like/agree w/ most of ^, w/ the exception of the ^ w/ Meyers; if u had Horford & Korver added, u don't need Meyers (not worth overpaying for him & situationally using him in limited time/games). In the above ^, the perfect fit is to keep Vonleh & develop him/let Horford mentor him (he'd b an awesome mentor!:twothumbs:) & pick up a cheap good shot blocking big that can score some & plays pretty limited minutes that could step in IF Horford got into foul trouble or was injured (i.e. my #1 choice would b Boban Marjanovic).
     
  6. BonesJones

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    I thought the qualifying offer would count as their cap hold?
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    CJ and parts may well do it. Something like that was had for Kevin Love, who almost certainly had huge trade value.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Problem is we are inferior at nearly every position in comparison to GS.

    We gotta zig when every zags.
     
  9. BonesJones

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    So for example?

    Horford leaves Atlanta (maybe signs with us?)
    Atlanta decides to blow it up

    ATL Gets: Aminu, Plumlee, McLemore, Vonleh, 3 Future 1sts (POR&CLE 2018, Right To Swap POR 2020)
    SAC Gets: Paul Millsap and Jeff Teague
    POR Gets: DeMarcus Cousins
     
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  10. BonesJones

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    PG-All Around Scorer
    SG-All Around Scorer
    SF-All Around Scorer
    PF-Defensive Stretch 4
    C-Defensive Low Post Scorer
     
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    You are a huge fan of threeways, aren't you?
     
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    I was going off of the parameters of the three way trade he said we'd have to do to get Cousins.
     
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    Yeah I was just making a stupid joke about threesomes. But I don't think I've ever seen someone propose as many thee way trades as you have.
     
  14. BonesJones

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    I could get defensive but...

    You're probably right lol
     
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    I wouldn't do CJ plus parts. But if you are saying this guy has trade value of those players like Love then they are the ones who would hang up. Love deal had Wiggins who was a number 1 pick, another number 1 pick player and Thaddeus Young who isn't too shabby and I would love to have on our team.
     
  16. 42N8Bounce

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    There's not a lot of game changers out there. But I think Horford's game would blend perfectly with the Blazers existing squad.

    Horford is one of the top passing big men out there, averaging 3.2 apg, and only 1.3 tpg. He's a very good rebounder at 7.3 rpg, along with 1.5 bpg. He's also got a eFG% of 54.7. He's a team player filling the gaps.

    At age 29, he's heading into the decline of his career, but I think he has a few more good years left in the tank. With the young age of our existing squad, I think he would add some much needed veteran balance.

    Does Horford make us a contender? Tough question. GSW and SAS are probably still on their own level. But I do think it puts the Blazers right in that second tier.
     
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    I thought so too at first, but I checked out a couple of sources and it looks like their cap hold is higher than their QO.
     
  18. BonesJones

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    Well Crabbe's is lower. So that's a good thing there.

    Thing is I don't want any of them on too expensive of a long term contract. I'm hoping we have $30-$40M in cap space next summer to go after Griffin, Ibaka, Millsap, and Hayward.
     
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    What do you like about Harrison Barnes though? I've never been impressed with him when we played the Warriors.
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    More like Okafor is similar to Wiggins in that deal. I think Love was worth a LOT more in trade than CJ is now. The other number 1 pick in the deal was already a bust by the time of the trade.
     

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