Exclusive Players Tribune: "What the Hell Happened to Darius Miles"

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Don't be a dumbass. Really. The N bomb?

    I'm 1000% sure he used the A version which has a completely different meaning. You be havin' some clueless ass posts sometimes...
     
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    That was a great read! Very well written, completely changes my view on the guy now. It's amazing how far the education of players has come in 20 years.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You'd better have nothing but good things to say about Mama Ethel.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I think with Roy it was a bit different, but I think we'll never know for sure (and probably, especially, now with PA gone). Roy was still getting paid from his amnesty waiver, but insurance was covering 17M of the payments still owed (somewhere around 1/3 of what was left, iirc). Because he was still under the timeline of the amnestied contract, he'd get set-off amounts (basically, half of what MIN was giving him PA now didn't have to pay), which seems like a good deal, except that those 5 regular season games meant insurance didn't cover him anymore--he wasn't "permanently disabled" if he could play again.

    So Roy basically made an extra $5M for playing 5 games (the second year was offset also), but cost PA 17M to do so. As stated before, no one on here would give that deal up, but I think Roy wanted to try to play again after his PRP treatment. And I have no idea what would've happened if Roy would've gone to PA and said something like "I want to make some cash, MIN will give me 5M that costs you 17. How about a contract as a "brand ambassador" or something for 1M/yr for 5 years (or whatever)? I don't know that even the biggest dick at Vulcan would scoff at saving $12M. But I think Roy really wanted to try to play again.
     
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    No sir. The story is somewhere. It was used in a derogatory way.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=1977798


    So your 1000% is 1001% wrong

    You probably wont do it for whatever reason, but you should apologize to El Presidente
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Is this green font? I'm going to go with yes.

    :cheers:
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Mo Cheeks almost quit the team after this incident.
     
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    I think he's referencing the time that they got into a fight and Miles (alle-ged-ly) called him an Uncle Tom and other things...
    His version is that he said "I don't care if we lose the next 20 games b/c you're going to be fired anyway".

    They've since made up (at least, Miles referenced it after Mo made the HoF), but according to multiple reports it happened the way El Pres said it.
     
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    I don't need to because I'm not wrong.

    There is a negative way to use the A version.
     
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    The "N-Bomb" is not the A version. This is my point.
     
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    People, I know the Miles incident well.

    My point is that he wasn't calling him some ER version of the word.

    He was talking to him like he was some A version of the street.
     
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    Yes, because the "cool street version" would cause Mo Cheeks to almost quit the team and grounds to suspend Miles for 2 games.

    WIKIPEDIA DISAGREES.

    Face it, Miles was a douche back then. He probably reflects back and grows up, writes a romanticized version of how things are now and everyone loves him again.

    He was terrible in Portland. I was so excited for him to be here and argued we NEEDED to sign him for the future of the franchise, but his attitude as a Blazer put him in the category of Blazers I just don't respect (him and Stoudamire).
     
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    No he was not. He was suspended and Cheeks almost quit because of it.
     
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    Look, just like the NFL was talking about players trading the N word and being penalized for it.

    They're using the A version and if you think Miles used the ER version, you're wrong.

    Being suspended for it means nothing.
     
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    If you think Miles called I'm ER, we have a bigger problem in this country than we know.

    And fuck Wikipedia.
     
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    Looking back at one of the bbf threads at the time of the incident, you mentioned that a "little birdie that might have been there at the time of the incident" told you that Miles went off on Cheeks after being singled out for a defensive lapse. would it be safe to assume that same avian informant clued you in as to the nature of the epithets used? That is to say, that you might actually have a less speculative take on this than the rest of us?
     
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    Imagine for a moment one black man, angrily shouting "Fuck you A version" for just a moment. Wikipedia .... If you only knew how stupid that sounds.

    Again, don't be stupid. There isn't a black man on the planet who uses the ER version seriously.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I wouldn't put it past Miles (who showed up smelling like booze in Practice). I'm firmly on Mo Cheeks side in this matter. He has shown throughout his entire Hall of Fame career and beyond that he is a man of integrity.

    Like I said, maybe he grew up, but back then, Miles was a fucking douche.
     
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    Just stop. Really.

    You made it seem like he was hard R'ing him and it's past stupid at this point.
     

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