OT Portland hotel calls cops on black guest in lobby

It's the folks who say black people want free shit. I quantified how healthcare wouldn't be free but LOTS cheaper if we went The single payer route.

 

I'm asking what you think about:

 

They called the real police.

How can you blackmail someone without having some inconvenient truth about them?

 

The 52% cost figure was with Blue Cross as the administrator. When Companies began to employ the insurance companies
as administrators of the system, it did lower the cost of the program a few percentage points. However, it made the system
much more cumbersome for the employees and way more costly to the providers with billing and code administration and all.
This in the end raised the cost of the overall healthcare system. It also eliminated the employees as a conscientious consumer
in the system which is known to increase costs.

Replacing the Insurance company in the system with the government will not improve the system, it is illogical with no rational
explanation for what would reduce cost.

 

True. This would be the normal escalation to criminal Trespass. Most companies insist management make this call. Perhaps they did, I do not know.

 

Really quick tho....

Obamacare didn't do anything to change that.

He was a paying customer. There is video of him showing his room number.

He was expelled for being black.

Black people get the short, sharp end of the stick in this country.

Our white counterparts are content to sit idly by while this perpetuates itself.

 

I'm torn. I don't mind people being mad about slavery or the holocaust. There are still holocaust survivors alive today if that means anything.

Whining about it? I don't even know who whines or what the whining would be.

The only thing that bothers me about either is that I had nothing to do with them. My grandpa fought in ww2 against the Germans so if anything my recent family is good to go.

I don't think my poor dairy farmer relatives from 100 -150 years ago had anything to do with either.

I would say without studying either closely that the holocaust seems worse but that's like the difference between getting your private parts cut off or tore off.

 

It was fine for the demographic that had expendable income....unfortunately the poorest people get sick the most often without options..until we have an airborne disease here like SARS....some folks are not going to understand the importance of healthcare for everyone around you that's breathing the same air and more importantly ...for their kids.

 

I understand your concern river. However, government can not make a welfare program out of a viable business for profit and end up with both. It can only end up with neither.

 

That's the problem. White people don't seem to understand they still benefit from this system that was setup after slavery.

Look up the 13th amendment. It was written that way to keep us enslaved.

 

I know they do and it happens all the time.

The argument I'm making is that Earl may just be a total asshole and the guy said something rude and he had a powertrip.

The Chipotle girl got saved by proof that the dudes that she wanted to make pay for their food dined and dashed all the time and bragged about it online.

Otherwise she's branded a racist for the rest of her life.

I linked a video of a verified racist psycho bitch in McMinnville I think it was. She gets what she deserves.

My wife has fought the soft racist shit on her own in the hair industry for fucks sake.

There was an old white supervisor at her old company that didn't want two black girls on the floor at the same time so they didn't talk "ghetto" or loud or some such bullshit.

I've been pushing my wife to be fair the entire time she's been in management and she has a great reputation because of it.

When she isn't sure about a disciplinary action she has to take I have her tell me all the relative info without telling me who did what and if they're her favorite or one she doesn't like.

She has simple rules about being on time and being professional. You fit in with that and you have a job forever.

 

Naw. It does not single you or any other out.

 

I know about this silly argument.

Unfortunately to have a society of laws we have to be able to put people in prison.

If you kill someone you don't get to sit in prison and read all day or play video games.

That amendment is written perfectly.

Now into reality, does that amendment leave it open to government making it a crime to be black and therefore blacks are slaves again? Sure if taken on its own.

The problem is laws being enforced unfairly, not the constitution.

 

There was no reason for Earl to begin questioning in the first place. The racial profiling began before Earl said one word. Skin tone brought about the confrontation.

Kudos to your wife. Her position is hard because being under an obvious racist of a manager and being the manager of those experiencing racism is a tough spot for one who actually cares.

 

Correct. But what happened after it was enshrined?

Our prison population went from 80% white to 80% black.

I challenge you and every conservative in here to watch this:

13th. from Slave to Criminal in One Amendment

 

From what ive read and know, which certainly isnt everything, the universal health care proposals have all included choice operations, not required.
Such as birthing. I havent seen anything on restrictions. Again, not interested in paying for someone else to pop out a dozen newbies into the world. Should be a limit.

Not interested in paying for someone rehab off drugs and alchohol and certainly not interested in paying for anyone elses persoanl choices that cause them harm. When the known outcome prior to the choice will be harmful (ie. not talking about situational circumstance like riding a motorcycle, while more dangerous, is not a mandate to be harmful. Accidents happen).

Leave charity to those who would like to help others how they see fit. Not mandate i provide charity to all.

I give alot, but more often on a personal level Nd not to some organization or group.

It prevents me from claiming a write off on what i give but that isnt the point of my giving so i dont care.


What i would be ailling to pay into is what i already do, but needs an overhaul.

Social security. Id also be willing to pay a tax that provides care for the elderly and the care of underage children without a parents to provide.

There has to be some sort of line drawn for having society pay for ones continual self destruction, Whichever form they deem most fits thier destructive needs.

 

It most certainly is NOT. Slavery is cruel and unusual punishment.

The 13th Amendment, by definition, defies the 8th amendment of the constitution.

 

You kinda seem to have an issue thinking that you're paying for other folks. You're not. You're paying a DRASTICALLY reduced cost for your care that is NOT given to an insurance cartel that makes every dollar through denial of care.

So you'd rather continue the FAILED war on drugs (something that we waste billions on) and spend that money policing people instead of rehabilitating them?

We completely disagree here.

 

No one can say that for sure without there being a test over time to determine the numbers, but i tend to disagree and feel thst if i only had to pay for myself, i would still be paying less than if i paid for everyone and im tossed in the middle, because i have been and plan on being very healthy overall(thankfully)

What i would like to see is some sort of drastic insurance sliding scale based on regularly mandated health checkups and lifesyles.

-If you drive x amount of miles a week.
-Do tou smoke, drink or do drugs
-reporting of diet and eating habits.
- Amount of excersize.
-how many children do you have.
-etc

Id like to have all of this tracked individually and cooporatively or you lose the ability to have insurance. If it is a government run system, id like the same.

Only then do i beleive any type of mass coverage would be fair. Until then there is no right answer, but im not interested in spending billions of dollars in changing a system that will still have Significant flaws.