We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I haven't been sold on any draft prospect that isn't clear #1. I think last one was Brandon Roy, but I do watch the Pac-12. I'm not that good at evaluating prospects I haven't seen on NBA floors against NBA competition. Wagner has looked pretty good...on a bad team. I'm certainly not ready to say he's worth the 3rd pick though
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    I saw the thread on another board that Washington might think about a rebuild (based on an Athletic article)- so Ill throw this out for discussion:


    Washington Trades:
    KP + Wright + #8

    Portland trades:
    #3 (Scoot) + #23 + Simons + Knox + Johnson

    Wiz begin the rebuild with a foundational player.
    They convince KP to opt in & they get value for his contract (instead if leaving via FA).
    They also get Simons to pair with them (or flip Simons to Orlando for cap space +#11).
    Alternatively, Simons can be the replacement for Beal if its a full tear down.
    #23 & Johnson provide youth and potential to the roster.
    Knox is just salary filler.

    Blazers get KP to opt in & extended (in 6 months). They acquire a great player at a reasonable cost- without having to win in FA.
    Wright slips into the GPII TPE, so Portland gets a reasonable backup PG.
    Blazers stay in the lotto, and hopes to find the diamond in the rough at 8.


    Since Washington is rebuilding in this scenario, I will not worry about their depth chart. Portland would look like this:

    PG: Dame, Wright
    SG: Sharpe, Thybulle
    SF: Grant, (#8 pick?)
    PF: KP, Watford
    C: Nurk, (MLE signing)


    Thoughts?
     
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    I thought the "Petition Guy" got voted off the island. If not, where did that $200 I venmoed @SlyPokerDog go?

    Miami isn't alone. Just this playoffs, the Lakers especially and GS to a lesser extent both did it. There's parity in the league right now and Dame is one of the few guys that can harvest energy from outer space and go otherworldly. This parity window likely won't last. I, for one, would like to see what Dame can do with this opportunity.
     
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    I’m not big on KP and #3 to #8 is too big of a jump.
     
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    Right now, what I want most would be Nas + #3 and #23 for Duren + #5. Duren would be the C of the future, and #5 gets us the best player outside the top 4. But there’s still a shot Amen will slip to #5, at which we would pick him.

    Dame/Ant/Amen/Mays
    Ant/Sharpe/Thybulle/Mays
    ____/Amen/Thybulle
    Grant/Watford/Walker
    Nurk/Duren/Watford

    We would still have a TPE and the MLE to add pieces to the roster like a starting wing and a third big.
     
  6. e_blazer

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    Thoughts? First thought: Why does every trade rumor on the internet have Portland bending over and saying thank you for being violated?

    Porzingis has done nothing to improve his team’s success his last couple of stops. For this, we’re supposed to give them Ant, #3 and 23 for #8? Surprised they didn’t ask for Sharpe as filler.
     
  7. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sorry, I'm out using our 3 for KP
     
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    Duren hasn't done enough to be worth the gulf that bridges 3 to 5. Truthfully, you might find someone at 23 that will be on a par with Duren pretty quickly, but few in the know think that anyone at 5 is close to the top 3 right now.
     
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    Not so hotso. The Zinger is coming off a great season, but he's been so injury prone. At the #8 we'd likely be selecting from which ever guy in the Hendricks, Black, Walker tier slipped down. I love Walker but doubt he goes past Detroit at 5 though some have him going through. None the less, they'd still land a solid rotation piece. I'd be more interested in #3 for #8 and a future 1st which could be used in a variety of ways.

    The Wiz are a team in need of a PG though, so they are a team that might be looking to move up for Scoot

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    Beg to differ. The youngest player in the league impressed me with his potential plenty last season. Not sure why Detroit is coveting #3 (presumably Scoot) over standing pat at #5 though, their back court is pretty much set from the last two drafts.

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    Nurk + Nas + 3 + 23 = Wendell Carter + Franz Wagner +6 + 11
     
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    He had a very good rookie year. However, that still isn't enough to justify that jump in this draft. You are, however, entitled to your opinion, but I strongly doubt any GM in Portland's position would make that move; you're essentially trading away a potential franchise-changing talent for two players you hope will be solid rotation guys.
     
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    #6 Walker/Amen/Ausar
    #11 Hendricks/Wallace/Lively/Hawkins
    I wouldn't be real mad if they took Hendricks at 6. I think he has a very high ceiling, along with a low floor.
    Dame-Sharpe-Grant-Wagner-Carter
    Wallace-Thybulle-Walker-Watford-Eubanks
    Mays-Keon-Williams-Walker-Badji
    Without consideration for what the return is for trading Ant.
     
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    I think Wagner is gettable because of redundancy with Banchero and especially gettable if Miller is there when Portland goes on the clock at #3.
    I wouldn't be against replacing Nas with Ant...or overpaying by sending both out.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Maybe Brown won’t be available. Miami seems intent on choking away a 3-0 lead.
     
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    I'm not overly high on Ant either because of his lack of defense, but I am NOT trading him for soon to be 34 year old DDR. Put Ant in a place he can excel, and I'd like to see what his value is. Unfortunately, that is not as a 6'4" shooting guard. From January, until he sat out, last year, he average 27 points on .486 from the field and .423 from '3' with 6.4 assist in 27 games. That is fairly elite level production from a 22 year old last year when he finally got to play PG. Not sure that is his natural position, but I'm not trading that production when he finally got a chance at PG vs SG for a 34 year old DDR.
     
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    a whole lot of chatter about Butler being an all-time great playoff performer earlier this month. He really need to step up tonight or Boston will be the first team to overcome a 3-0 deficit

    Adebayo has to show up too
     
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    You and I clearly see the talent in this draft differently, which is fine, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My guess is it will unfold differently on draft day then it's being scripted right now. With as young as most of the top prospects are, who's to know which guard currently lacking a jumper will develop one and who won't ect... but in the end I wont be surprised if there are several all star level talents drafted after 3.

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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    The two combined were 9 for 37. In-ex-cus-a-ble
     
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    #3 + Ant for Derrick White
     
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