Zombie What is the Best Offer We Could Get for C.J. McCollum?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Had to go back and find the thread you're referencing.

    http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/realistic-trade-ideas.316268/page-7#post-4196438

    Have to wonder if your detractors therein (I won't name names) would want to reconsider their stances. You look pretty prescient in that thread.
     
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    At the time, that Dell would've been horrible. Nurk was coming off a stretch where he was playing better than Drummond, Jackson didn't fit with our guards, and giving up Harkless, Vonleh, and two firsts for Harris was a reach.
     
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    I can’t find it in that thread but I think people thought it was so dumb because everyone assumed all three of those players were going to perform at the level they played at in 2016 when pretty much everyone on Detroit was obviously having a down year.

    Plus there was that stupid cult following of Nurkic that had everyone thinking he was for sure the next Marc Gasol. I’d argue now that any of those three players would be no less than our third best player on the roster and that our team would probably be 3rd in the West. Just sayin...
     
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    Huh? We could easily get 4/5 seed and beat Minnesota in a playoff series.
     
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    Yeah I also reckon Drummond is a much better player at this point. He really is a monster rebounder, that is not even debatable and when you have many shooters on your team it's very valuable.

    People are still a bit blinded by Nurkic, I like him and he is definitely an improvement over Plumlee but he is NOT one of the best centers in the league and has many flaws to his game that he will need to address because he can be considered a top 10 NBA center. Drummond is already a top 10 center.
     
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    Damnnn even Drummond's FT% is up...
     
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    NOT SWAYED.

    :smiley-hvala:
     
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    Dude, you're getting a Dell.
     
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    At the time, the two firsts may have made it bad value as proposed, but the basic premise was to trade potentially overvalued players for potentially undervalued ones. The fact that it seemed like bad value at the time doesn't change the fact that most of the arguments waged against it in July have proven to be incorrect.

    Perhaps it was just a lucky dart throw, but based on this season's results, it seems that had the deal been made as proposed, we'd look like winners now.

    Is it really that hard to give credit where it's due?
     
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    right now it's probably Paul George
     
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    Rhal, Dec 27, 2017
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    You really want his thoughts???

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    We won't. You're blinded.
     
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    gasol.PNG Nurkic.PNG
    Maybe we could wait until Nurk is as old as Gasol was his rookie year before we start saying that he's for sure not?
     
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    I wonder if Milwaukee would bite on a CJ and filler for Middleton, Jabari, and a 1st. Jabari is obviously high risk high reward but reports are saying he could play right now but the Bucks are taking it slow.

    Middleton could play the two and we might be able to use the 2 first rd picks and some of our scrap to trade for a real SF like Tobias Harris.

    It will take something like this to get us out of the mediocrity.
     
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    I don't think they'd even accept CJ for Middleton straight up.

    I wouldn't if I were them.
     
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    I don't know that they would either but to be clear that doesn't mean CJ isn't the better player. Just not much of a incentive for them to mess with their chemistry.

    I bet they would accept CJ for Jabari (not with a first too) but they don't need a SG so....
     
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    They either fire Kidd or make some roster moves because that team isn’t performing to the level they should be. I bet Parker is definitely on the block.
     
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