What will it take for Chauncey to get fired?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    my unconscious agendas are best....I hate waking up in the morning
     
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    I'm not sure if everyone has an agenda when talking about the Blazers. I think we all have a bias in how we see things.

    Let me put it this way: If my income were based off my opinions of the Blazers and when I made posts that were pro-Billups I received $50, but the ones that were anti-Billups received $500 (based off clicks, interactions, etc), I have a feeling my brain would start focusing on the posts that brought in the most money.
     
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    it does?? Want to read it again? Grant and Sharpe played the bulk of the season? Scoot started the bulk of the season? You know who the power forward x factor is and he started this last season?
    Ayton played with Scoot and Sharpe the bulk of the season?
    Ayton played with a legit star pf the bulk of the season?

    Im completely confused by your assessment of what it looks like…

    Gsw has 5 EX all stars. Not current all stars. When they were actually allstars they led the league in wins….

    context matters my friend.
     
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    Not everyone has a fertile mindset....
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I was mainly talking about The NO series.
     
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    First, you had 3 if’s in your statement. Not quite the same as relying on one player.

    Second, Edwards won rookie of the year or was 2nd. Sharpe and Scoot not even close to that. Shai showed a lot more in year 1 than Scoot and Shaedon, although quite different circumstances.

    Third, this doesn’t apply to Scoot, but Ant and Shai had clear leaps in year 2. Shaedon was about the same in year 1 and year 2. Scoot, TBD. Although Scoot is also starting so far behind both Ant and SGA that once again I’ll say:

    If Scoot becomes a star, similar to SGA or Ant, he will make one of the largest leaps in the history of the game. He finished with a single digit PER (lower than Sebastian Telfair). Players that finish with a PER that low rarely if ever become stars.
     
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    Just like when Dame got us to around 500 after Aldridge left, right? Big time.

    Just imagine if Chief and Harkless popped...

    Probably better to just tear it down now and start the next tank job ...
     
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    Cronin explained how much Billups helps out in the Blazers Front Office, the scouts, everyone everywhere gets good input from Chauncey.

    Billups said this was his best season as head coach. He got to run a few different plays (when guys were available), and his rookies competed hard.

    One more 'best season' as head coach, then move Billups to the Front Office.

    Chauncey's talents in the NBA is a welcome sight for what seems to be a Front Office in dire need of NBA experience. There's rookies & sophmores in Blazers management. The inexperience is not isolated strictly to the court.
     
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    Shae barely played this year. Not sure how you can say he was the same…
     
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    chief and harkless were lotto picks in thier second season??
    Not even a distant comparison, let alone a close one.
     
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    Hardly matters. Same arguments, and both were more proven in tougher and more important situations than our current two.

    We're going to need a team full of talent like Scoot and Sharpe to have any hope of being a contender in the future.

    As much as I hope they both turn into stars, the odds are pretty good that one or both of them will not.
     
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    He played over 30 games and had a decent amount of minutes in most of those games.

    If we are being honest, he was worse, but I was being friendly by saying he was about the same since he got injured.

    He was WAY less efficient. He certainly wasn't trending in the direction of "big year 2 leap".

    Pretty easy to say he was "about the same" based on those circumstances.
     
  13. Whyachi

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    before Shaedon's injury really flared up, Sharpe had a run of about 6 games with 20+pts on 50%, 40% shooting. The kid can do special things, but his body had a different agenda this year.
     
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    Maybe because he was injured through half those games? Maybe a circumstance you are dismissing?

    Did Dame look the same prior to his surgery when he was playing?

    context matters…
     
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    Wonder if he would be in consideration for the Pistons GM opening.
     
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    On the one hand he's completely unqualified, but on the other, that didn't stop him getting his current job.
     
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    I just don't think Ime would have accepted losing Lillard and going full rebuild.
     
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    Nurk was fighting injury that series also
    Played with minutes restriction 24 mins first game, 15 mins the second game, He did play 24 mins the 3rd game but was in foul trouble most of the first half.
    He also fouled out of game 4 in 30 mins.
    I think what Stotts did with Nurk is kind of a bad point to stand on. He was not able to deal with Davis. Ed Davis was actually a better option at that point. Zach was a non issue. Way over his head.
     
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    I don't understand this line of reasoning:

    Chauncey hasn't had one roster built to win>Chauncey hasn't won games so we can be sure he sucks as a coach>If Chauncey is a bad coach then Stotts was a great coach and should have been retained.

    I think everyone knows the first statement is true. Joe has said as much.

    The second statement should be nullified by the first statement. I mean people can opine that Chauncey would suck and cost a team wins even if given a winning roster but we can't be sure because of the obvious flaws that every permutation of the rosters that he's had.

    The third statement is the weirdest one but it gets thrown around in this forum all of the time. People here are like, "Look how bad Chauncey sucks, we never should have gotten rid of Stotts." Terry Stotts had an unprecedented tenure without a finals appearance, only a franchise that embraces mediocrity would set a record like that. So once this organization decided they'd waited long enough to do what needed to be done a lot sooner, it's hard for me to see them criticized for it.

    Just hiring Olshey's number two guy without seriously considering anyone else is worth criticizing but moving away from Stotts after eight seasons without a single win past the second round of the playoffs seems crazy to me.
     
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    I've seen nothing that would suggest he is even close to a decent coach.
     

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