Why isn’t Terry Stotts coaching?

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Reports talked about the Jazz having interest, but they just signed Will Hardy to a 5 year deal.

Magic recently hired a former Mavericks assistant coach as well.

Why isn’t Stotts coaching somewhere?

Say what you want about how far we got with him. Stotts is not a horrible coach… Would you rather have McMillan? As far as coaching FA goes, he’s one of the top coaches available, right?
 
He had mixed success as Portland coach. With such a long tenure, he doesn't have any accomplishments in recent years as an assistant on a good team. Was a candidate for several positions, but since he didn't get any that probably reduces his appeal as well. I think he'll need to be an assistant or something else before getting his next job.

Great person, great leader of our franchise, had some great offensive ideas, got some horrible rosters with scrubs to perform very well. Obviously had faults too. I hope we see more from him, and I wish him well.
 
He's getting paid by the Blazers again this year same as last....he has no incentive to really work...Thibideau did the same thing when the Bulls bought him out. Terry was offered an assistant coaching job with the Lakers and turned it down. At his age he can pick and choose. I'd retire if I were in his shoes and enjoy his life. Stotts had two years left on his contract when we parted ways. Look who's been hired and it's young assistant coaches, not the Stotts or D'Antonis or Mark Jacksons....the league has been trending toward the next chapter of coaches since Brad Stevens coached Boston. Hell we hired a rookie coach over D'Antoni
 
Average coach who just kinda rolled the ball out there and let them play with no emphasis on defense whatsoever.

I don’t know if he’ll get another shot. His gigs in Milwaukee and Atlanta we’re not very notable either.

Nice guy though. Wish him the best.
 
PDXFonz said:
Reports talked about the Jazz having interest, but they just signed Will Hardy to a 5 year deal.

Magic recently hired a former Mavericks assistant coach as well.

Why isn’t Stotts coaching somewhere?

Say what you want about how far we got with him. Stotts is not a horrible coach… Would you rather have McMillan? As far as coaching FA goes, he’s one of the top coaches available, right?
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Stotts is a fine coach, not great, not horrible. Could be plenty of reasons he hasn't been hired outside of just being good in Portland. Hiring unproven assistants seems to be a much bigger trend than retreads at this point.

So far we have yet to see the results improve w/out him. I highly doubt we'll make it any further in the playoffs under Billups than we did with Stotts, but I really want to be wrong on that one.
 
Tince said:
Stotts is a fine coach, not great, not horrible. Could be plenty of reasons he hasn't been hired outside of just being good in Portland. Hiring unproven assistants seems to be a much bigger trend than retreads at this point.

So far we have yet to see the results improve w/out him. I highly doubt we'll make it any further in the playoffs under Billups than we did with Stotts, but I really want to be wrong on that one.
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I think they don’t look at them as unproven assistants but more as young innovative minds that follow the analytics narrative.
 
why would anyone harm themselves

it doesnt make sense
 
He’s decent but always got exposed in the playoffs by not making adjustments.

a team rebuilding would be smart to hire him imo, but dump him before getting into contention
 
He's better than Clifford who the Magic opted to rehire rather than hire him.
 
MickZagger said:
I think they don’t look at them as unproven assistants but more as young innovative minds that follow the analytics narrative.
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I can't prove the second part, but that might be their hope/wish. My desciptor wasn't meant to be a slight, just a factual description.

For example, I have no proof that Billups is an innovative mind that follow the analytics narrative more than the average coach. Do you?
 
Tince said:
Stotts is a fine coach, not great, not horrible. Could be plenty of reasons he hasn't been hired outside of just being good in Portland. Hiring unproven assistants seems to be a much bigger trend than retreads at this point.

So far we have yet to see the results improve w/out him. I highly doubt we'll make it any further in the playoffs under Billups than we did with Stotts, but I really want to be wrong on that one.
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Hold up.

"We haven't seen the results improve with out him." Are you serious? You're going to make assumptions based on us tanking the fuck out of last season? Dame went out for the year and we openly tanked for almost half the season.

I'm sorry, but it's an absolute joke you're basing ANYTHING off of last season. At least say "hey guys, Im gonna troll you, but here's my incredibly bad take".

Context is beautiful. Use it.
 
Strenuus said:
Hold up.

"We haven't seen the results improve with out him." Are you serious? You're going to make assumptions based on us tanking the fuck out of last season? Dame went out for the year and we openly tanked for almost half the season.

I'm sorry, but it's an absolute joke you're basing ANYTHING off of last season. At least say "hey guys, Im gonna troll you, but here's my incredibly bad take".

Context is beautiful. Use it.
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I'm unsure what I said that is inaccurate. Have we seen results improve? No... which is what I said. Did I say, last year proves Billups is an awful coach? No. Even if healthy, that probably wouldn't have been enough time to draw that large of a conclusion.

Also of note: Hold up. You misquoted me dispsite putting quotes around my supposed statement. Context is beautiful. Use it.

I 100% look forward to the day where someone (properly) quotes me saying "I highly doubt we'll make it any further in the playoffs under Billups than we did with Stotts." and tells me to eat crow. I'm looking forward to that playoff run! I've said it in so many threads, but I'll say it here again... I think Billups was a fine hire, but I don't think he'll be the solution, just like I don't feel Stotts was the problem. If the roster doesn't get significantly better, there is only so much Billups can do.
 
Tince said:
I'm unsure what I said that is inaccurate. Have we seen results improve? No... which is what I said. Did I say, last year proves Billups is an awful coach? No. Even if healthy, that probably wouldn't have been enough time to draw that large of a conclusion.

Also of note: Hold up. You misquoted me dispsite putting quotes around my supposed statement. Context is beautiful. Use it.

I 100% look forward to the day where someone (properly) quotes me saying "I highly doubt we'll make it any further in the playoffs under Billups than we did with Stotts." and tells me to eat crow. I'm looking forward to that playoff run! I've said it in so many threads, but I'll say it here again... I think Billups was a fine hire, but I don't think he'll be the solution, just like I don't feel Stotts was the problem. If the roster doesn't get significantly better, there is only so much Billups can do.
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I will say you are good at charades. You’ll infer something and we know where you stand but never actually say it.
 
MickZagger said:
I will say you are good at charades. You’ll infer something and we know where you stand but never actually say it.
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I like Billups. I liked Stotts. I don't think Billups (to date) has had more success. I think Billups could end up having more success, but it would require a significant roster upgrade, which I'm not sure will happen.

I'm looking forward to being called a Billups apologist in a few years when everyone is blaming him for our lack of success and I'm likely saying I think he's a good coach. Until then, I guess I have to stick with my old title.

I can't help if other people make incorrect assumptions or read further into things I say. It's clear a few people think they know where I stand but are incorrect. I'm trying to stick to fact based stuff here as much as possible.
 
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Strenuus said:
Hold up.

"We haven't seen the results improve with out him." Are you serious? You're going to make assumptions based on us tanking the fuck out of last season? Dame went out for the year and we openly tanked for almost half the season.

I'm sorry, but it's an absolute joke you're basing ANYTHING off of last season. At least say "hey guys, Im gonna troll you, but here's my incredibly bad take".

Context is beautiful. Use it.
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This is why i call Chauncey a rookie coach still. Has not shown anything and has not been in any real pressure game situations. Has not used real starting role players and has not had to deal with the ego's involved.
 
julius said:
leftover lasagna would do better than Mark Jackson as a broadcaster.
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WHAT A DUNK BY THE YOUNG FELLA

What did you think about that partner?



I couldn’t have said it better myself.
 
riverman said:
He's getting paid by the Blazers again this year same as last....he has no incentive to really work…
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Interesting point.

I don’t even know what we are contracted to pay him but even if it was 5M/Y, a 3Y 3M/Y would pay more and keep him actively in the league.

Haven’t read all comments yet, but from what I’ve seen I agree about him being a better alternative than some other hires around the league.

I think a lot of people who don’t like him as a coach feel that way because they think we should have seen more success with those rosters during his time.
 
Stotts got more out of Aldridge in that offense than Pop did. Look at how Aldridges stats improved with Stotts compared to McMillan.

Allen Crabbe…

Harkless…

Theres an official list of players which looked better here in that offense.

Yes, who they had around them on the floor was different, and that’s a big reason why people would turn towards Stotts to explain why we weren’t able to go further in the playoffs during that time.

But a lot of it is getting what you can out of players, which I personally feel like Stotts excelled at.
 
ehizzy3 said:
He’s decent but always got exposed in the playoffs by not making adjustments.

a team rebuilding would be smart to hire him imo, but dump him before getting into contention
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McMillan is definitely the same in that regard though, which is why it’s interesting to look at him compared to Stotts.

Coach Nate’s time here, and after; compared to Stotts time here.

Nate McMillan is one of the better coaches in the league at developing young talent into NBA players. But when it comes to matchups and a long series, it’s always going to come down to player talent because he’s probably not winning the adjustments and game control categories.
 
Cugel said:
if stotts was as bad as many here say he is, he wouldnt even be a candidate for openings
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I liked Stotts but he had zero in game adjustments. Offensively it was high pick and roll over and over. He wasn’t respected enough by the players for them to commit to defense. Everything starts and ends with head coach.

I’m guessing he’s respected enough to get interview but the gm’s know he’s not a tier 1 or 2 coach.
 
I listened to the Jazz beat writers talk about why they should hire Terry and they made a ton of sense...many players had career years under him. He coached 179 different players for the Blazers and all said they loved him ...they had a detailed breakdown of how Terry could get the most out of players like Harkless and Chief....but sadly after Wes went down Terry never had a good enough roster to go far....the fact that he took a one armed Enes Kanter and Evan Turner squad to the WCF is quite remarkable. I have a lot of respect for Terry. He wasn't our glaring issue...his boss was. When Terry coached LA, Nico Wes Dame and Rolo he had a top 10 defense...with Mario Hezonja and Tolliver....not at all
 
Scalma said:
Because Dame carried him.
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It’s really hard to argue. It makes sense why a change was made, and how because of his experience, Chauncey is an understandable hire.

This year will be pretty telling in all honesty.

You’d think that if it were logical to look at a future rebuild around Sharpe, that we wouldn’t need to rebuild around him.

We could use an Ayton-Nurk swap at C. I love Nurk, but I would have made that trade by most any means possible. If Sharpe from what inside scouting saw is capable of being a generational talent, then he should be able to be a reliable option as a starter.

At which point you start talking about the coach and how plays are ran for players to get their looks.

What do most 2’s/3’s do on offense? Go into the corners and Maybe they move to the other side when the ball rotates… We should expect plenty of 3’s and lobs to Sharpe if things pan out.

Offense can be fairly straightforward in the league. Some coaches schemes are probably a lot less complicated. But the thing is, when the player cuts compared to when the other player screens on the other side of the court makes a lot of difference.
 
Off-Topic

Steve Kerr is one of the greatest NBA players of all time.

One of the greatest coaches of all time.

Champion coach, champion player. Understands the game all around.

Without googling I honestly don’t even know if he’s been inducted. Has he? He will be…
 
PDXFonz said:
Stotts got more out of Aldridge in that offense than Pop did. Look at how Aldridges stats improved with Stotts compared to McMillan.

Allen Crabbe…

Harkless…

Theres an official list of players which looked better here in that offense.

Yes, who they had around them on the floor was different, and that’s a big reason why people would turn towards Stotts to explain why we weren’t able to go further in the playoffs during that time.

But a lot of it is getting what you can out of players, which I personally feel like Stotts excelled at.
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Well I would hope so. Stotts was brought in specifically to install an offense for LMA.
 
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