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“Because he plays for the Bucks, and if he makes a complaint, it’s going to be a [redacted]. And then any little [redacted] thing that goes wrong is going to be, ‘Ooh, the Milwaukee Police Department is all racist ... blah, blah, blah.’”

I'm not saying the entire department is racist, but of the officers that took part in this arrest all I have to say is, if the jackboot fits, wear it.

Zero concern that they used extremely excessive force on an innocent person, only concerned about covering their asses after they realized they may be held accountable for their actions. Despicable behavior from officers who took an oath to serve and protect.

BNM
 
Cops need to be held accountable. Every vocation has good people and jerks. Most cops are great people. The ones that aren't need to be removed. This one doesn't seem that questionable. The cops overreached and should be retired.
 
Reep said:
Most cops are great people.
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I fucking HATE this statement. Not one person on the planet can make this statement and fully know what they're talking about. It's COMPLETELY an assumption.

Especially when you have whole police forces who are blatantly racist.

Ferguson Police Routinely Violate Rights of Blacks, Justice Dept. Finds

WASHINGTON — Ferguson, Mo., is a third white, but the crime statistics compiled in the city over the past two years seemed to suggest that only black people were breaking the law. They accounted for 85 percent of traffic stops, 90 percent of tickets and 93 percent of arrests. In cases like jaywalking, which often hinge on police discretion, blacks accounted for 95 percent of all arrests.

The racial disparity in those statistics was so stark that the Justice Department has concluded in a report scheduled for release on Wednesday that there was only one explanation: The Ferguson Police Department was routinely violating the constitutional rights of its black residents.

The report, based on a six-month investigation, provides a glimpse into the roots of the racial tensions that boiled over in Ferguson last summer after a black teenager, Michael Brown, was fatally shot by a white police officer, making it a worldwide flash point in the debate over race and policing in America. It describes a city where the police used force almost exclusively on blacks and regularly stopped people without probable cause. Racial bias is so ingrained, the report said, that Ferguson officials circulated racist jokes on their government email accounts.

In a November 2008 email, a city official said Barack Obama would not be president long because “what black man holds a steady job for four years?” Another email included a cartoon depicting African-Americans as monkeys. A third described black women having abortions as a way to curb crime.

“There are serious problems here that cannot be explained away,” said a law enforcement official who has seen the report and spoke on the condition of anonymity because it had not been released yet.

Those findings reinforce what the city’s black residents have been saying publicly since the shooting in August, that the criminal justice system in Ferguson works differently for blacks and whites. A black motorist who is pulled over is twice as likely to be searched as a white motorist, even though searches of white drivers are more likely to turn up drugs or other contraband, the report found.

Minor, largely discretionary offenses such as disturbing the peace and jaywalking were brought almost exclusively against blacks. When whites were charged with these crimes, they were 68 percent more likely to have their cases dismissed, the Justice Department found.

“I’ve known it all my life about living out here,” Angel Goree, 39, who lives in the apartment complex where Mr. Brown was killed, said Tuesday by phone.

Many such statistics surfaced in the aftermath of Mr. Brown’s shooting, but the Justice Department report offers a more complete look at the data than ever before. Federal investigators conducted hundreds of interviews, reviewed 35,000 pages of police records and analyzed race data compiled for every police stop.

The report will most likely force Ferguson officials to either negotiate a settlement with the Justice Department or face being sued by it on charges of violating the Constitution. Under Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., the Justice Department has opened more than 20 such investigations into local police departments and issued tough findings against cities including Newark; Albuquerque, N.M.; and Cleveland.

But the Ferguson case has the highest profile of Mr. Holder’s tenure and is among the most closely watched since the Justice Department began such investigations in 1994, spurred by the police beating of Rodney King in Los Angeles and the riots that followed.

While much of the attention in Ferguson has been on Mr. Brown’s death, federal officials quickly concluded that the shooting was simply the spark that ignited years of pent-up tension and animosity in the area. The Justice Department is expected to issue a separate report Wednesday clearing the police officer, Darren Wilson, of civil rights violations in the shooting.

It is not clear what changes Ferguson could make that would head off a lawsuit.

The report calls for city officials to acknowledge that the police department’s tactics have caused widespread mistrust and violated civil rights. Ferguson officials have so far been reluctant to do so, particularly as relations between the city and Washington have grown strained.

Mr. Holder was openly critical of the way local officials handled the protests and the investigation into Mr. Brown’s death, and declared a need for “wholesale change” in the police department. Ferguson officials criticized Mr. Holder for a rush to judgment and saw federal officials as outsiders who did not understand their city.

Brian P. Fletcher, a former Ferguson mayor who is running for City Council in next month’s election, said he believed the report was unfair because the Justice Department relied on incomplete data. For example, he said, the racial disparity could be explained not by bias but by the large number of black people from surrounding towns who visit Ferguson to shop.

“I know to some degree we’re already on the right track because we’ve already modified our courts to make it fairer,” he said.

For Mr. Holder, the case has been deeply personal. He spoke about conversations he had as a boy with his father about what to do when stopped by the police. And he described his own experience as the victim of racial profiling. Such comments drew the ire of police groups who said Mr. Holder, the nation’s first black attorney general, was fueling anti-police sentiment in minority neighborhoods. Mr. Holder has stood by his remarks, which have since been echoed by James Comey, the F.B.I. director.

The report is due to be released in Mr. Holder’s final days in office. He announced his retirement last year and plans to leave as soon as the nominee to succeed him, Loretta E. Lynch, is confirmed in the Senate.

In pushing for police reforms, the Justice Department typically does not call for personnel changes, such as the firing of a police chief. Instead, it typically seek institutional changes, such as mandated training, efforts to diversify the police force and more outside oversight. In many cities, the two sides agree on a federal monitor to ensure the police department is complying.

Ms. Goree said she was skeptical that changes would be made without the city’s being sued.

“If the Justice Department doesn’t take it to the full extent of the law,” she said, “it’s not going to be one iota of a change.”
 
Reep said:
Cops need to be held accountable. Every vocation has good people and jerks. Most cops are great people. The ones that aren't need to be removed. This one doesn't seem that questionable. The cops overreached and should be retired.
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What a Thousand Oaks thing to say...
 
Reep said:
Most cops are great people.
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See I don't think we can have this both ways. They CAN'T be regular people just like us and not have our flaws too.

They are just as racist as "regular people", MORE stressed than "regular people, and most probably have PTSD.
 
Propagandist said:
What a Thousand Oaks thing to say...
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What does that mean? Especially given I have lived in all four corners of the U.S.

And, for what it's worth, I agree that there are definitely places in the U.S. where the racists cops outnumber the good ones. I lived in Dallas for a few years. Couldn't wait to get out of there. Sorry for any that live there, but that was the most racist city I have came close to. Had a black friend who couldn't go running at night (I like to run) because he was guaranteed to get pulled over and questioned. That is 100% wrong and totally sucked.
 
dviss1 said:
I fucking HATE this statement. Not one person on the planet can make this statement and fully know what they're talking about. It's COMPLETELY an assumption.

Especially when you have whole police forces who are blatantly racist.
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It feels like people go with their experiences instead of statistics or, I don't know, reality. I've spoken to a number of police in Portland because of my work, and I can honestly say, as a white man, I definitely get treated like I'm on the inside of some club. And I've felt that way with black officers too.
 
dviss1 said:
NO. NO. NO.

They should be PROSECUTED...

They assaulted this man for NO reason and should have the SAME laws applied to them. They are NOT above the law.

Prosecute them, and this shit stops.
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I won't dispute that. If a cop goes beyond reasonable force for the situation and commits assault, then yes, they should have the same rules as the rest of us.
 
Congratulations to all involved in this thread!!!

This is the 1000th thread in which everyone has agreed that a policeman should be punished. Everyone assumes he will be, and the thread ends. A year later, when the cop is let off and returns to duty, not one thread is ever reactivated to inform everyone.

No. 1000!!! This is something special and should be celebrated.
 
Remember this thread, in which most board members (and Americans) were outraged

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/i-need-to-stop-trying-to-help-yall-gain-perspective.304434/

about a black man whose car broke down, just a trivial disabled vehicle case, not suspected of any crime. He was taller than Tulsa PD policewoman Betty Shelby, a sissy. So she called in a helicopter and extra squad cars, they arrived, she demanded he raise his arms, he did (it's on film), and then she shot him through the heart.

Post-thread news: She got $35,000 untaxed compensation for lost income during her fake trial. She was soon hired by Rogers County (adjacent to Tulsa, so she wouldn't have to move) Sheriff Scott Walton, a family friend, ardent supporter, and public critic of her prosecutors.
 
dviss1 said:
This is why they are kneeling @Cippy91, @Jade Falcon...
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Why am I tagged when I don't give a shit if players are kneeling for the flag or not? you think you know people and their opinions when you really don't dude and this shit is tiring.
 
jlprk said:
Remember this thread, in which most board members (and Americans) were outraged

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/i-need-to-stop-trying-to-help-yall-gain-perspective.304434/

about a black man whose car broke down, just a trivial disabled vehicle case, not suspected of any crime. He was taller than Tulsa PD policewoman Betty Shelby, a sissy. So she called in a helicopter and extra squad cars, they arrived, she demanded he raise his arms, he did (it's on film), and then she shot him through the heart.

Post-thread news: She got $35,000 untaxed compensation for lost income during her fake trial. She was soon hired by Rogers County (adjacent to Tulsa, so she wouldn't have to move) Sheriff Scott Walton, a family friend, ardent supporter, and public critic of her prosecutors.
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I admit to being guilty, though I don't usually post in the threads. But I'd had no idea what happened to this woman. Crazy. Appreciate the update.
 
Hoopguru said:
thin line between cops and criminals. Many, not all, but many are egotistical, arrogant and power hungry.
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Being a cop is hard and risky work. It seems like it typically falls into two groups. Those who really want to serve and help people and those who for some reason felt powerless in their youth and see this as a way to finally gain that power. I have one of each of those in my remote family.
 
Reep said:
Being a cop is hard and risky work. It seems like it typically falls into two groups. Those who really want to serve and help people and those who for some reason felt powerless in their youth and see this as a way to finally gain that power. I have one of each of those in my remote family.
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I have several good friends that are or have been police.
One that was my neighbor for years is where I got "there is a thin line between a cop and criminal" he was talking about the ego, excitement and power and that some don't mind crossing the line.
The one thing they all have in common (friends or guys I grew up with) they were all on power trips.
Then I thought about referee's....lol
 
Cippy91 said:
Why am I tagged when I don't give a shit if players are kneeling for the flag or not? you think you know people and their opinions when you really don't dude and this shit is tiring.
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My bad. I guess I was wrong about your stance... Calm the fuck down... Why would me saying that to you make you so mad sheesh...
 
Hoopguru said:
I have several good friends that are or have been police.
One that was my neighbor for years is where I got "there is a thin line between a cop and criminal" he was talking about the ego, excitement and power and that some don't mind crossing the line.
The one thing they all have in common (friends or guys I grew up with) they were all on power trips.
Then I thought about referee's....lol
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I have 2 cousins that are police. One is a Multnomah County Sheriff and the other is a police officer in La Grande, OR.
 
dviss1 said:
My bad. I guess I was wrong about your stance... Calm the fuck down... Why would me saying that to you make you so mad sheesh...
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I don't think his reply was uncalm. Tagging someone in that context is akin to calling them out. Why not just say you were wrong and leave it at that?
 
Hoopguru said:
I have several good friends that are or have been police.
One that was my neighbor for years is where I got "there is a thin line between a cop and criminal" he was talking about the ego, excitement and power and that some don't mind crossing the line.
The one thing they all have in common (friends or guys I grew up with) they were all on power trips.
Then I thought about referee's....lol
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I do love the fact that if a coach mouths off too bad I can "give him a seatbelt" and make him stop. But a good referee is as follows:

Be invisible. You blow your whistle at the obvious things that should most certainly be called.

Never guess.

Never take baggage away from the game meaning:

NEVER leave a game saying "I shouldn't have T'd him/her" or "I should've T'd him/her".

This takes experience and thick skin.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I don't think his reply was uncalm. Tagging someone in that context is akin to calling them out. Why not just say you were wrong and leave it at that?
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My statement wasn't enough to illicit that kind of response IMO but whatever.
 
dviss1 said:
See I don't think we can have this both ways. They CAN'T be regular people just like us and not have our flaws too.

They are just as racist as "regular people", MORE stressed than "regular people, and most probably have PTSD.
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Most people in most groups are good people.
There are bad apples in every barrel.
 
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