NBA Trade Deadline: February 6

[TBpup]

The Blazers have already made one more although there is speculation Ariza might be moved again in the coming 2 weeks.

Nurkic will be back at some point and Collins is said to be 'ahead of schedule' in his rehab.

So what does that mean for the Blazers, the remaining large ending contract (Whiteside) and what Portland is going to do in the next coupld of weeks?

 

[Cugel]

There is no way Hassan resigns for next year. Why would he? Plenty of teams should want his expiring to take them deeper in the playoffs.

 

[Neil O. Shyster]

Unfortunately, we already know the answer... Whiteside for salary dump at most, but probably nothing... Neil will never take a risk. Purgatory still sells tickets in Portland.

 

[illmatic99]

Whiteside for Hayward is sitting right there for the taking.

 

[B-Roy]

Whiteside for Hayward is sitting right there for the taking.

Is it? I don't think Boston would do that.

 

[tester551]

The Blazers have already made one more although there is speculation Ariza might be moved again in the coming 2 weeks.

Nurkic will be back at some point and Collins is said to be 'ahead of schedule' in his rehab.

So what does that mean for the Blazers, the remaining large ending contract (Whiteside) and what Portland is going to do in the next coupld of weeks?

Who is speculating that Ariza gets moved again?
I think that it would be smart to move Ariza again... but I haven't heard much discussion regarding that. Also, I'm not sure he has much value either.

Whiteside for Hayward is sitting right there for the taking.

I highly doubt Boston would do that.
It also complicates things for the Blazers, as Hayward makes $5m more than Whiteside is is likely out for the rest of the year.

 

[Scalma]

Whiteside for Hayward is sitting right there for the taking.

Boston seems to be getting good production at center though. I had Boston as a possible destination for Whiteside as well but looking at some numbers makes it unlikely imo. They’re a top 5 team in points given up in the paint, top 10 in offensive boards, and top 10 in blocks.

I mean if they’re desperate to dump Hayward’s money, it’s possible, but I doubt it. He’s been productive, and may opt out this summer.

 

[illmatic99]

Boston seems to be getting good production at center though. I had Boston as a possible destination for Whiteside as well but looking at some numbers makes it unlikely imo. They’re a top 5 team in points given up in the paint, top 10 in offensive boards, and top 10 in blocks.

I mean if they’re desperate to dump Hayward’s money, it’s possible, but I doubt it. He’s been productive, and may opt out this summer.

Kanter's been great for them of late, but they still need a C, and Hayward is on the hook for 34 mil next season (no way he opts out of that). Hell, I think Boston would probably need to throw a pick our way to take on that Hayward contract and 15% trade kicker.

It's a really expensive proposition for us, but a risk I would prolly take. He really fits all our needs at SF if Nurk can come back healthy next season.

 

[Scalma]

Kanter's been great for them of late, but they still need a C, and Hayward is on the hook for 34 mil next season (no way he opts out of that). Hell, I think Boston would probably need to throw a pick our way to take on that Hayward contract and 15% trade kicker.

It's a really expensive proposition for us, but a risk I would prolly take. He really fits all our needs at SF if Nurk can come back healthy next season.

Why wouldn’t Hayward opt out? This summers FA class sucks while the 2021 class is loaded, specifically at his position.

 

[illmatic99]

Why wouldn’t Hayward opt out? This summers FA class sucks while the 2021 class is loaded, specifically at his position.

Is there much $ out there? 1 yr 34 mil is a massive incentive to opt in.

 

[Scalma]

Is there much $ out there? 1 yr 34 mil is a massive incentive to opt in.

He’d get a lot more than $34M on the market. Horford opted out of $30M and got $100M, and he was much older than Hayward.

 

[B-Roy]

Kanter's been great for them of late, but they still need a C, and Hayward is on the hook for 34 mil next season (no way he opts out of that). Hell, I think Boston would probably need to throw a pick our way to take on that Hayward contract and 15% trade kicker.

It's a really expensive proposition for us, but a risk I would prolly take. He really fits all our needs at SF if Nurk can come back healthy next season.

I don't know what incentive they would have to do that. They aren't a tax team this season so the savings are irrelevant. It's very unlike Ainge to add picks unless it looks like he's "winning" the deal. Also, they're trying to win, and Hayward is undoubtably the better player...

 

[tester551]

The Blazers have already made one more although there is speculation Ariza might be moved again in the coming 2 weeks.

I came up with one option that I think would work great for everyone involved. It would have to be completed in 2 steps to get through the CBA.

Portland/Memphis: Ariza ($12.2m) + Cash <-> Josh Jackson ($7.5m)
Memphis/Dallas: Ariza ($12.2m) <-> Lee ($12.7m) + future 2nd

Dallas gets a 'wing defender' that they are looking for at the cost of a future 2nd.
Memphis gets cash to cover the salary difference & a future 2nd for someone they have not played at all.
Portland reduces the cap hit by ~$5m and gets to within $2m of the tax line. They take a chance on Jackson to be a model citizen and to be the SFotF.

 

[Scalma]

I truly don’t believe they acquired Ariza with the idea of flipping him before the deadline. They acquired him because not only does he fill a basketball need while lowering the tax bill, his contract also gives the team flexibility in the summer/next season.

 

[B-Roy]

Portland reduces the cap hit by ~$5m and gets to within $2m of the tax line. They take a chance on Jackson to be a model citizen and to be the SFotF.

That's not happening. He hasn't played a single game for the Grizzlies who have assigned him to the G-League since the beginning of the year. Hell, he just got suspended for a game in the G-LEAGUE for behavior reasons.

 

[James lamphear]

I think they stand Pat if they do a trade it will be like getting rid of Mario for something but I still think this it is for trades. Olshey doesn't more then one trade at deadlines.

 

[TBpup]

Not sure what effect he had, but the Utah Jazz are 12-1 since they acquired Jordan Clarkson. Before he arrived, they were 18-12....now up to 30-13 and tied for the #2 spot in the West.

 

[GDiama]

Not sure what effect he had, but the Utah Jazz are 12-1 since they acquired Jordan Clarkson. Before he arrived, they were 18-12....now up to 30-13 and tied for the #2 spot in the West.

Well they didn't have a scorer on the 2nd unit, but now they do. He is important to them for sure.

 

[kjironman1]

I know better than to click on a "Trade Thread". You guys start to act like NBA players are a box of steak knives at a flea market that you can find a good deal for and trade for a new lamp. You need the lamp because you can't see what you are cutting with the knives but when you trade the knives you can't cut what you see.

I don't remember reading anyone saying lets trade Baze and Tolliver for Ariza, Gabriel, and Biggie.

Anyway..... Have at it.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I know better than to click on a "Trade Thread". You guys start to act like NBA players are a box of steak knives at a flea market that you can find a good deal for and trade for a new lamp. You need the lamp because you can't see what you are cutting with the knives but when you trade the knives you can't cut what you see.

I don't remember reading anyone saying lets trade Baze and Tolliver for Ariza, Gabriel, and Biggie.

Anyway..... Have at it.

Are you saying there isn't one expert in this forum?

 

[SheedSoNasty]

I know better than to click on a "Trade Thread". You guys start to act like NBA players are a box of steak knives at a flea market that you can find a good deal for and trade for a new lamp. You need the lamp because you can't see what you are cutting with the knives but when you trade the knives you can't cut what you see.

I don't remember reading anyone saying lets trade Baze and Tolliver for Ariza, Gabriel, and Biggie.

Anyway..... Have at it.

maybe there’s someone who will trade you the lamp for some steak knives and a night light or at least a candle to be named later.

 

[kjironman1]

Are you saying there isn't one expert in this forum?

Oh there are experts alright.

 

[kjironman1]

maybe there’s someone who will trade you the lamp for some steak knives and a night light or at least a candle to be named later.

Limited edition Dame Bobble head or no deal!

 

[BonesJones]

Unfortunately, we already know the answer... Whiteside for salary dump at most, but probably nothing... Neil will never take a risk. Purgatory still sells tickets in Portland.

I hate the silly "purgatory" narrative with an absolute passion.

 

[BonesJones]

I know better than to click on a "Trade Thread". You guys start to act like NBA players are a box of steak knives at a flea market that you can find a good deal for and trade for a new lamp. You need the lamp because you can't see what you are cutting with the knives but when you trade the knives you can't cut what you see.

I don't remember reading anyone saying lets trade Baze and Tolliver for Ariza, Gabriel, and Biggie.

Anyway..... Have at it.

*rolls eyes*

Its speculation as to what opportunities might be out there, and what we'd try to do with the team. Nice anology though?

 

[Cugel]

Steak knives and lamps...Shakespeare if I am not mistaken? Well done. Well done.

 

[hoopsjock]

I know better than to click on a "Trade Thread". You guys start to act like NBA players are a box of steak knives at a flea market that you can find a good deal for and trade for a new lamp. You need the lamp because you can't see what you are cutting with the knives but when you trade the knives you can't cut what you see.

I don't remember reading anyone saying lets trade Baze and Tolliver for Ariza, Gabriel, and Biggie.

Anyway..... Have at it.

There were mentions of Ariza as a possible target. I never in a million years would've thought Swanigan would be back on the team this year, ha ha, but he was included just to make the trade legal. Most people had never even heard of Wenyen Gabriel before this trade or if they had from his days at Kentucky he had mostly been forgotten about. Even our G-League guy @Scalma asked "who the fuck is Wendell Gabriel?"

The thing that wasn't factored in by a lot of people was making a move to save that much money, mainly because that is nowhere near as fun of a scenario to dream up. However, there were several ideas being floated about by people, including myself (@tester551 was another), that would save the Blazers a big tax payment.

 

[Scalma]

There were mentions of Ariza as a possible target. I never in a million years would've thought Swanigan would be back on the team this year, ha ha, but he was included just to make the trade legal. Most people had never even heard of Wenyen Gabriel before this trade or if they had from his days at Kentucky he had mostly been forgotten about. Even our G-League guy @Scalma asked "who the fuck is Wendell Gabriel?"

The thing that wasn't factored in by a lot of people was making a move to save that much money, mainly because that is nowhere near as fun of a scenario to dream up. However, there were several ideas being floated about by people, including myself (@tester551 was another), that would save the Blazers a big tax payment.

Who the fuck is Wendell Gabriel?

btw I’m not a g league guy. I actually hate it. I only watch it when there’s a blazer involved.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Who the fuck is Wendell Gabriel?

btw I’m not a g league guy. I actually hate it. I only watch it when there’s a blazer involved.

You may not be a g-league guy, but you're our g-league guy.

 

[HailBlazers]

There is no way Hassan resigns for next year. Why would he? Plenty of teams should want his expiring to take them deeper in the playoffs.

If he thinks we could be contenders next year and if the market doesnt think he skills are worth a big contract.