Trade Grant to Portland for Mil first done deal

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Dude said than not then.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    I know. I said I would rather trade #7 for Dort and Duren than trade Bledsoe and #7 for OG
     
  3. Chris Craig

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    Who knows
     
  4. Chris Craig

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    Oh, thanks
     
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  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Nobody thought Dame would be a Dame caliber player.
     
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    Dame was a four year collegiate player.
    I was assuming you were thinking this pick would be instant Dame.
    A miriad of things can potentially happen between now and four years now. To say there is no other way to be contenders in four years other than having this pick pop and be Dame2.0 doesn't make sense to me. There can be many many things that can happen. Disgruntled stars for cheap. What if Butler is available next year?
    Sooo many intangibles i cant accept the premise of the question. Thus, I cant find anything maddening. All teams are roller coasters and all teams have ups and downs over the years.
    I understand and have the same passion to win as you. I just refuse to let not winning it all make me perpetually annoyed with the team.
     
  7. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Let's just say I like

    Dame
    Simons
    Grant
    OG
    Nurk

    Better than

    Dame
    CJ
    Moe
    Chief
    Nurk

    I like the bench we would have better than those teams too.

    I like the rotation we'll be looking at if we acquire OG for Bledsoe and 7 better than any rotation we've had since Dame has been here because of the iteration of Dame I expect to get this upcoming season as opposed to what he was and the lack of cohesion we had when LaMarcus was here.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think it's safe to say, even if they don't trade for OG, the Blazers (assuming they re-sign Simons and Nurk) are a better team than the 2020-21 team, and with OG would be a better team than the team that went to the conference finals.

    And probably would have their best starting 5 in 7 years.
     
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    And that team won 50 plus games and made the conference finals.
     
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    I find it perplexing that some cant find a positive light in this and are annoyed, unhappy or being driven insane by those of us who see this as improved beyond what we have had with Dame in the past.
     
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    When is the last time we acquired a disgruntled star for cheap? Probably Scottie Pippen and it was over 20 years ago.
     
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    That makes no sense. But your posts rarely do!
     
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    You dont know that. We didn't know that Dame would be a Dame caliber player in his draft.
     
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    When was the last time we attempted to acquire a disgruntled star?
    We know the rumors a out PH and Butler and NO likely held that back.

    Besides history doesn't define the barometer of the future. If it did, odds say we should do everything to trade the pick because the numbers say we likely wont hit in the draft.
    To me, this team with OG would be very intriguing to a disgruntled star.
    And if that is the metric, then we could equate that to drafting. We hit on Dame. Missed on Roy. Missed on Oden. Drafting is no more certain than the plethora of x factors that pop up throughout a season.
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    I think the Grant trade is good. I think trading the 7th for role players is not good.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We missed on Roy?
     
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    I work 50 hours a week and we were talking about Blazers from here.
    Horace is not. Please try to keep up sir!
     
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    The Warriors just won the title as a 3rd seed.
     
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    Yes. He brought Portland nothing. Dame has gotten further in the playoffs. The context is winning is it not? He blew his knees out and ran with the money. Bust in my book.
     
  20. Natebishop3

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    So many ways to answer this…. Where to start…..

    Firstly…. The third seed is not the fourth seed. I know that’s obvious but it seems relevant.

    Second…. The warriors are much much much more talented and have the championship experience to win as basically any seed.
     

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