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What is the best firearm carry policy?

  • Allow open carry

    Votes: 8 61.5%

  • Require license for open carry

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Ban open carry

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Allow concealed carry

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Require license for concealed carry

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Ban concealed carry

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Same rules apply to handguns and rifles

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Carry rules for handguns should be more restrictive than those for rifles

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Carry rules for rifles should be more restrictive than those for handguns

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    13
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Let's talk about guns.

A video that @dviss1 posted recently showed the inequities in police officers' treatment of a white man and a black man exercising their open carry rights (in a state in which it is legal). Separately, an article @magnifier661 posted recently talked about California's ban on open carry of firearms, and inconsistencies between counties regarding issuance of concealed carry permits. In it, it mentioned that the US Supreme Court has regularly ruled that the 2nd amendment clearly protects citizens' rights to owning guns in their homes, but they haven't really ruled on how the 2nd applies to carrying guns in public (whether concealed or open).

So it gets me to thinking, what is the most reasonable position regarding public carrying of firearms? Should all carrying be permitted without restriction? Is open carry preferable so that the surrounding public is aware of the presence of gun carriers in their midst? Is concealed carry preferable so as to prevent public discomfort/panic, as well as keeping potential criminals unaware of the possibility of civilian armed response? Would it be better to prohibit civilian public carry of firearms, allowing them only on the gun-owner's property or in-transit to/from authorized locations (hunting grounds, gun ranges, etc)? Should there be different carrying rules for handguns vs rifles (or mags' RPG), or should all guns be considered equal?

You can pick 3 of the 9 options in the poll--the intention is for you to pick 1 of each group of three poll options. I'm really curious to see where the forum comes down on this.
 
I would like to see more training and accountability for gun owners. Not really sure the best way to accomplish either of those. Open carry yahoo's just make me feel uncomfortable and are generally the people who I trust the least with guns.
 
It seems the primary argument against open carry is that is "intimidating" and perhaps somewhat "menacing". People feel uncomfortable around it because they feel for their own safety and get nervous.

If that is the case, certain ways of dressing should be banned (i.e. wearing a hoodie in public) because for many people it is intimidating and they get uncomfortable as well. Its not the problem of someone who is carrying a firearm in public openly that others are uncomfortable. For some, homosexuals and transexuals are unsettling to see in public. Many people are scared and uncomfortable and fearful of them.

Some people open carry because they want to flaunt their rights. That way, open carry is a form of protest/advocacy for their right to bear arms, nothing more. It isn't different than any other kind of organized protest, just because some people are uncomfortable with the message doesn't really change the core of it, it is someone making a protest in a highly visable way. Its actually much more peaceful than many "protests" where people block intersections, shout, riot, attack people, etc.

How much violence has actually stemmed from someone doing an open carry? Its just making people uncomfortable, like most "protests" do.
 
I think open carry is stupid. The only reason why most people do it is to create drama. Conversely, I think people get way too freaked out about seeing a gun these days.

I'm fine with concealed carry requiring a permit. If you're going to do it, you should have to go through a course to prove you're not a complete bozo.... with that said, I have been through the course, and I am certified to give the course, and the course doesn't prove squat. It's a basic level class that basically only tells someone what a gun is, what type of gun it is, and how to unload it. That's it. That's all that is required to be able to get a CHL.
 
I voted for open carry without a license and conceal carry must be permitted. I am fine with everyone needing some form of training in order to have any gun.
 
None of the above.

The Second Amendment guarantees all American Citizens the right to bear arms.

All attempts to limit when, where, who, what, why and especially how, are Unconstitutional, illegal and openly treasonous attacks against American Citizens.
 
MARIS61 said:
None of the above.

The Second Amendment guarantees all American Citizens the right to bear arms.

All attempts to limit when, where, who, what, why and especially how, are Unconstitutional, illegal and openly treasonous attacks against American Citizens.
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How is that "none of the above"? Sounds like poll options 1, 4, & 7 describe your position perfectly.
 
I am all about guns. That being said, I'd like there to be tougher gun laws and much more thorough training. I always conceal, but actually like open. What I'd like more is all open, with a massive fine snd loss of license if you dont have your permit. The police should be able to check whomever, whenever they want.
 
I am all about guns. That being said, I'd like there to be tougher gun laws and much more thorough training. I always conceal, but actually like open. What I'd like more is all open, with a massive fine snd loss of license if you dont have your permit. The police should be able to check whomever, whenever they want.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I am all about guns. That being said, I'd like there to be tougher gun laws and much more thorough training. I always conceal, but actually like open. What I'd like more is all open, with a massive fine snd loss of license if you dont have your permit. The police should be able to check whomever, whenever they want.
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I think I remember seeing videos where law enforcement cannot request to see your license? Is that true?
 
And I agree that all U.S. Citizens have the right to guns, but I also agree that they should also all be licensed. I also think they should have mandated training every 2-3 years to keep their right to carry. I don't see anything wrong with any of that
 
If it's a comfort gun, they'll probably issue permits through senior disabled services
 
What I disagree with is bullshit laws that limit magazine size, bullet buttons or types of guns people can have.
 
Tranquilizer guns are even better...Cosby could've pulled off his hobby without needing to get close enough to identify with those
 
riverman said:
Tranquilizer guns are even better...Cosby could've pulled off his hobby without needing to get close enough to identify with those
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PtldPlatypus said:
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Jokes about rape are hilarious, but only when they're pertaining to bad people in prison.

Case in point: Jared from Subway and any reference to footlongs.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Cue the obligatory post angrily responding how jokes about rape are not funny in 3...2...1...
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This guy got in a fight with his girlfriend. It was getting pretty bad and the name calling started. At one point she called him a pedophile, to which he responded "hey, that's a pretty big word for a 9 year old"
 
Mediocre Man said:
I am all about guns. That being said, I'd like there to be tougher gun laws and much more thorough training. I always conceal, but actually like open. What I'd like more is all open, with a massive fine snd loss of license if you dont have your permit. The police should be able to check whomever, whenever they want.
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Like it and support it, at least at first thought. Problem is you run into the "gun list" crowd who think this is just another attempt to disarm them.
 
riverman said:
filled with pork juice, these could be a weapon against ISIS...you can't get to the promised land smelling like pork
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We always considered filling them with red kool-aid, but never took that step.
 
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