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Too smooth.

 

Kennard has Jon Diebler bust potential

 

Because of the local ties, Jordan might have the edge, but who do you prefer between Motley and Bell?

 

Bell needs to be a Blazer

 

Left hand, In-N-Out crossover to the Baseline spin move, with the right hand finish on the left side....

Ballarinalike...

 

If that were the case, Meyers might be an all star.

 

Okay, but why vs Motley?

Player.......Ht.....Wt....Wing......Pts....Reb...Ast...Blk....FG%...FT%
Bell..........6'9"...230...6'11".......11.0...8.7.....1.8....2.3... .661... .694
Motley.....6'9"...235...7'3 1/2"...17.2...9.9....2.2....1.1.... .537... .702

Motley has a much better wingspan although Bell blocks more shots. I don't think Bell is as dominant in the NBA though. Motley is much more of a scorer and slightly better in rebounds and assists while Bell shoots a higher percentage but without as much range.

 

His ball control with his left hand pretty impressive overall. The lefty in and out is definitely his go to move right now though.



His left to right crossover is a work in progress. It's smooth, but he'll get lazy with it and it ultimately won't create a lot of separation. Improving his jumper will also help here as defenders won't be able to gap him as much.

But in the end, the game just comes really easy to him and I trust that kind of player to develop more so than kids that are better athletes but started playing competitively during their HS careers and are clearly behind the curve from a basketball instincts standpoint. His defensive tools + handle + passing + mid range scoring acumen are also skills that give him a higher ceiling then more athletic wings like Ferguson and Diallo.

Mitchell is probably the only other non lottery guard that offers a similar kind of ceiling, but his size makes for a tougher roster fit.

 

Yeah give me Motley over Bell as well.

Guys with Bell's size and offensive skill set are just not valued rotation players in the modern NBA.

He's going to have to play the 5 to have any value and don't think he has much of a chance to hold up size wise at that position.

Motley isn't without his flaws (his foul and TO rate are big issues) but has nice offensive skills and the movement and plus size to play both 4 and 5 in certain lineups.

 

Was Diebler really a bust? Wasn't he like one of the last picks in the draft? Playing in Europe is living up to your expectations.

 

Why? Same reason I don't like guys from the Cuse. No science, no stats.

Bigs from Baylor have been underwhelming.

 

They just so happen to share a first name, but Luke Kennard is the Luke Babbitt of SG prospects except Babbitt was a better run and jump athlete. Had better size/frame for his position as well. Kennard is the better dribbler and passer for his position but I don't think the margin matters much.

Both have that herky jerky style pull up game, but just aren't dynamic enough athletes to translate as any sort of self creation at an NBA level. They basically have to be elite shooters to have any chance of being rotation players.

Some try and compare him to JJ Redick and Marco Belinelli, but JJ was/is much faster and was a higher IQ/more dynamic threat off the ball and on the move with his jumper. And Marco has always been a much more fluid and flexible athlete.

 

what do you guys think of Devin Robinson from florida?

 

Pass.

He's another athletic wing who can't dribble and his shot is just OK. Seems pretty low IQ on the floor too.

 

Those are the same knocks as the ones on Jimmy Butler, Khris Middleton, and Paul George when they came out.

He shot 39% from 3pt, and can okay defense. He's a 3-And-D SF already. He doesn't need to be handling the ball and making tough decisions, just needs to be able to hit spot up 3s, attack closeouts, and move well off the ball.

 

i honestly would be so happy if we get him or semi at 26. but if we had to choose, which you would you rather have?

 

Can't pick one over the other. Semi's a little better shooter, Robinson's a little better defender.

 

I like Semi's attacks of the basket like he wants to tear down the rim.