OT Was Robert E. Lee really all that evil?

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  1. barfo

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    You seemed to be making an argument that it was ok that the south had slaves because that's where they were useful?

    Maybe I didn't get the drift. What were you saying?

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    What are we to do with Arlington?
     
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    I was saying the North had an easier out by not needing them as badly. If you don't have a purpose for something it is easier to give up.

    So, the moral superiority is subjective.
     
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    Which leads to a new KKK poltergeist movie (which I'd watch)
     
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    Ah! he did no evil. You want evil, look to Sheridan. Lincoln sent him on the mission of making sure the people of South Carolina knew personally the horror of war.
    He scorched the place, raped and burned from one end to the other. On the orders of the President no less.
     
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    Also, lets assume that for each day a slave is kept, a child born in the future will suffer a non-life-threatening disability.

    And, lets assume that one of the people that was saved by the slave labor turned out to be the next Hitler.

    And, lets assume that if one too many slaves are kept, aliens invade earth and kill everyone. Everyone knows that, but no one knows what the magic number is.

    And, assume that Train A leaves the station at 8:45 travelling at 30 mph, while Train B, the express train, leaves 10 minutes later.

    How long does it take to fill the bath?

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    How big is the tub and what temperature do you want it? And you do want water, correct?
     
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    Shit these asshole active now won't be happy with Condos! Destruction man! Destruction, burn the bitch down!
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    OK, awesome. It will make some people feel a little better, which is fine. My point was that taking them down won't eradicate racism or dramatically improve/degrade people's lives.

    As for Lee, we agree. We don't know how "evil" he was/wasn't. Most of his contemporaries described him as a gentleman, and shrewd tactician and strategist, who didn't want the U.S. to dissolve, but fought for his home state out of a sense of loyalty. That's not really the issue anyway (despite El Presidente's bogus rhetorical question). I seriously doubt a single person opposed to Lee's statue is concerned with Lee the man. It's the symbolism of the statue that people take issue with.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yeah, exactly.
     
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    Agree.

    Although, if black people feel slighted by these statues and we take them down voluntarily it could help race relations I suppose.

    I still think putting a bigger MLK statue next to them with a disapproving frown of some sort would be better. That would make people think.
     
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    Really! An amendment to the Constitution?
     
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    Must happen, I never saw no Robert E Lee statues in Star Trek.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Ask a flippant question, get a flippant answer. You know the drill by now.
     
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    Nothing flippant about it. But let me be more direct, How the fuck do you intend to dictate to southern states again?
     
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    Perhaps not but we did have Navy Sub named the USS Robert E Lee.
     
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    Decommissioned?
     
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    I think the shit will hit the fan more than big time when these assholes start trashing Arlington National Cemetery. Lee's place you know.
     
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    I think so.
     

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