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Anyone watching this? The main event is getting ready to start.
 
Wow, what a crazy ending.

I would have called it a draw for the Russian leaving the octagon.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Wow, what a crazy ending.

I would have called it a draw for the Russian leaving the octagon.
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I dont pay a ton of attention to mma, but McGregor’s been allowed to get away with so much crap because he makes UFC money. Its seemed like the rules have been special for him and his team for a while, from the people I know who watch MMA most of them said he didnt even deserve this fight after the bus attack stuff, and having not fought in a couple years.

Taking it out of the octagon is bad and Khabib should get punished, but its not really anything worse than what Connor and his group has done.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Taking it out of the octagon is bad and Khabib should get punished, but its not really anything worse than what Connor and his group has done.
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IMO it's completely different, that could have either turned into a riot or a stampede. We're talking crowd safety.
 
I am so pissed that I missed this. I had this marked on my calendar for a month, but I've been sick as a dog for the past two weeks and completely forgot about it. :angry:

Following the press conference Live on GlockTalk and YouTube.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
IMO it's completely different, that could have either turned into a riot or a stampede. We're talking crowd safety.
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I understand, but after throwing metal and having a gang of 30 people attack a couple buses full of people, it seems like Conor shouldnt even of been given the chance to be in the fight. Im all for punishing Khabib and his team for the post fight non-sense. I just think it sets quite the double standard in the UFC, that Conors been allowed to not just talk a big game but be completely out of control and he’s never really seriously punished for anything. Say they stripped Khabib of the title, which I think you could argue he deserves, Id be ok with that. If the tables were turned and it was McGregor, I dont think his punishment would be as severe.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
IMO it's completely different, that could have either turned into a riot or a stampede. We're talking crowd safety.
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Let me break it down because there are a lot of opinion of guys who watch this sport maybe once or twice a year when conor fights. So Khabib is from dagestan. Undefeated. Big fight. Conor. Irish. We all know him. Two countries who are very prideful. Some months ago Khabib was fighting in new york and leading up to that fight, Conor decides to do this.



So khabib ends up winning his fight but then Khabib mcgregor is announced in august. Leading up to the fight Khabib was fairly silent in trash talk, just saying he was gonna smash him and all that meanwhile conor went very personal. Talked about his family and all that, mocked his religion of being a muslim and you could tell khabib was angry. This was just this past week of press conferences, you can look them up. So khabib destroys conor tonight. Who khabib went after was dillon danis, a fellow UFC fighter and conors best friend. Stupid but that's all khabib is guilty for. His guys came in and threw punches at conor, that was totally unacceptable. That's not on khabib though. Thats the short version and personally as a fan of this sport since I was 14, I loved every minute of conor getting beat, also loved it when Nate diaz choked him out. I can't stand him and the ufc let him get bigger than the brand. They had conors whiskey brand on the octagon mat and let him go for two belts, etc. Didn't fight for two years, they stripped him finally after a year and a half and khabib got the title. I just can't stand the guy. Great fighter but he has brought so much bullshit to the sport but also a lot of money which is why he is allowed to get away with nonsense. So yeah, just letting those know who aren't that big of fans or only show up for the conor fights, it's a lot deeper and complex than just some emotions after a fight. Been boiling for a while. Also the UFC kind of bred this bullshit, using the bus attack as a promo. It's nonsense
 
Why can't people be disgusted by both Khabib and McGregor? It's like if you say something about what a stupid thing Khabib did it means you are a McGregor supporter. They're both fuckwads.
 
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hoopsjock said:
Why can't people be disgusted by both Khabib and McGregor? It's like if you say something about what a stupid think Khabib did it means you are a McGregor supporter. They're both fuckwads.
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I agree. Im not trying to excuse his actions after the fight ended.
 
Cippy91 said:
Let me break it down because there are a lot of opinion of guys who watch this sport maybe once or twice a year when conor fights. So Khabib is from dagestan. Undefeated. Big fight. Conor. Irish. We all know him. Two countries who are very prideful. Some months ago Khabib was fighting in new york and leading up to that fight, Conor decides to do this.



So khabib ends up winning his fight but then Khabib mcgregor is announced in august. Leading up to the fight Khabib was fairly silent in trash talk, just saying he was gonna smash him and all that meanwhile conor went very personal. Talked about his family and all that, mocked his religion of being a muslim and you could tell khabib was angry. This was just this past week of press conferences, you can look them up. So khabib destroys conor tonight. Who khabib went after was dillon danis, a fellow UFC fighter and conors best friend. Stupid but that's all khabib is guilty for. His guys came in and threw punches at conor, that was totally unacceptable. That's not on khabib though. Thats the short version and personally as a fan of this sport since I was 14, I loved every minute of conor getting beat, also loved it when Nate diaz choked him out. I can't stand him and the ufc let him get bigger than the brand. They had conors whiskey brand on the octagon mat and let him go for two belts, etc. Didn't fight for two years, they stripped him finally after a year and a half and khabib got the title. I just can't stand the guy. Great fighter but he has brought so much bullshit to the sport but also a lot of money which is why he is allowed to get away with nonsense. So yeah, just letting those know who aren't that big of fans or only show up for the conor fights, it's a lot deeper and complex than just some emotions after a fight. Been boiling for a while. Also the UFC kind of bred this bullshit, using the bus attack as a promo. It's nonsense
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This is informative, though Ive read bits and pieces of it. I dont pay attention much with or without McGregor.
 
I watch a lot more UFC than boxing nowadays but I still prefer the latter. That match felt like the WWE.
 
the guys from khabib's squad that got arrested have been released as connor refused to press charges.
not sure who, but id assume they're perma banned from any UFC event
it'll be interesting to see what the athletic comm does.

khabib's post fight presser was interesting. basically said, look yall flipping out at me about going over the fence - connor and his crew have insulted my father and family, religion, country, friends, kids of friends, and he threw a dolly thru a bus window injuring fighters that arent even on my team, and he basically got away with it. this is a sport of honor and respect, its missing and it needs to come back to being fighting, not being a dick for PR hype.

ruskis aint playin with that disrespect shit.
 
I'm like 90% Irish. So i have always wanted to support McGregor but every time i watch the dude he just makes himself and Ireland look bad.
He got beat on just about every level in that fight. Trying to keep it to striking in the third was his only chance. The best fighter won in that fight without question.
As far as after the fight goes? No excuse for it at all.
 
Cippy91 said:
Let me break it down because there are a lot of opinion of guys who watch this sport maybe once or twice a year when conor fights. So Khabib is from dagestan. Undefeated. Big fight. Conor. Irish. We all know him. Two countries who are very prideful. Some months ago Khabib was fighting in new york and leading up to that fight, Conor decides to do this.



So khabib ends up winning his fight but then Khabib mcgregor is announced in august. Leading up to the fight Khabib was fairly silent in trash talk, just saying he was gonna smash him and all that meanwhile conor went very personal. Talked about his family and all that, mocked his religion of being a muslim and you could tell khabib was angry. This was just this past week of press conferences, you can look them up. So khabib destroys conor tonight. Who khabib went after was dillon danis, a fellow UFC fighter and conors best friend. Stupid but that's all khabib is guilty for. His guys came in and threw punches at conor, that was totally unacceptable. That's not on khabib though. Thats the short version and personally as a fan of this sport since I was 14, I loved every minute of conor getting beat, also loved it when Nate diaz choked him out. I can't stand him and the ufc let him get bigger than the brand. They had conors whiskey brand on the octagon mat and let him go for two belts, etc. Didn't fight for two years, they stripped him finally after a year and a half and khabib got the title. I just can't stand the guy. Great fighter but he has brought so much bullshit to the sport but also a lot of money which is why he is allowed to get away with nonsense. So yeah, just letting those know who aren't that big of fans or only show up for the conor fights, it's a lot deeper and complex than just some emotions after a fight. Been boiling for a while. Also the UFC kind of bred this bullshit, using the bus attack as a promo. It's nonsense
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I know the history between the fighters.

I'm looking at it like the NBA, the first incident would be like a fight in the locker room.

I put last night on the same level as the fight in the crowd between the Pistons and the Pacers.

You don't go into the stands or the crowd.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I know the history between the fighters.

I'm looking at it like the NBA, the first incident would be like a fight in the locker room.

I put last night on the same level as the fight in the crowd between the Pistons and the Pacers.

You don't go into the stands or the crowd.
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I stayed up and did some reading last night and it seems like the UFC is trying very hard to be WWE but with real fighting...
Dana White and UFC has had these drama's and sub plots and the McGregor's of the world just stirring the pot for promotions.

I agree it should stay out of the crowd, but I also kind of wonder what the UFC expects when they're heavily promoting guys being immature.
You foster the type of environment that promotes acting stupid and you get stupid results. Dana White and the UFC have made it clear their looking for a show and just about anything goes,
literally Conor just months ago did criminal things that were much more damaging than what happened last night, and only got a slap on the wrist basically.
So eventually crap like this is going to happen.

To me Dana White comes across as a complete hypocrite when he talks about how bad this type of stuff is on one hand and yet pushes all the buttons as hard as he can with the other hand.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I know the history between the fighters.

I'm looking at it like the NBA, the first incident would be like a fight in the locker room.

I put last night on the same level as the fight in the crowd between the Pistons and the Pacers.

You don't go into the stands or the crowd.
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Except you didn’t have MMA fighters in the stands trying to cold clock fans. Not even remotely similar to the malice at the palace or else you would’ve had numerous fans leaving on stretchers. You had two fighters go at it outside the ring. It’s more akin to two basketball players fighting and ending up in the front row. You’ve also had Conor storm into a ring at a Bellator event & jump into the crowd and storm in Jose Aldo’s face.

And the first incident is no way similar to a locker room fight. That’s more like Z-Bo getting 30 of his goons to attack the opposing teams bus to try and get DMC off the bus so they can fight and ends up injuring multiple people in the process w/glass and dolly.

Like...

Khabib went after a fighter one on one in the crowd.

Conor took 30 people and tried to surround a bus and prevent it from leaving...
 
This stuff reminds me of why I don't go to S2 meet-ups. I don't want anyone to get hurt.

I never miss an Ali fight. Wonder when his next one is.

These are great caricatures, the wild Irishman with a temper and a long red beard vs. the greasy Muslim Russian. Vince McMahon couldn't have designed it better.

Local TV used to have frequent local wrestling, with visiting national stars. In the clean-shaven 60s, we saw beards only on TV, not in real life. In Hawaii, I liked The Weird Beard, my plump little brother liked the new guy who talked about pencil-necked geeks, and my father talked about Gorgeous George, who combed his hair during TV matches.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I stayed up and did some reading last night and it seems like the UFC is trying very hard to be WWE but with real fighting...
Dana White and UFC has had these drama's and sub plots and the McGregor's of the world just stirring the pot for promotions.

I agree it should stay out of the crowd, but I also kind of wonder what the UFC expects when they're heavily promoting guys being immature.
You foster the type of environment that promotes acting stupid and you get stupid results. Dana White and the UFC have made it clear their looking for a show and just about anything goes,
literally Conor just months ago did criminal things that were much more damaging than what happened last night, and only got a slap on the wrist basically.
So eventually crap like this is going to happen.

To me Dana White comes across as a complete hypocrite when he talks about how bad this type of stuff is on one hand and yet pushes all the buttons as hard as he can with the other hand.
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Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
 
theprunetang said:
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
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You guys assume that the UFC league doesn't want all this publicity to happen. Whoever the Commissioner is, I doubt he's some punitive nerd like David Stern. He loves it.
 
jlprk said:
You guys assume that the UFC league doesn't want all this publicity to happen. Whoever the Commissioner is, I doubt he's some punitive nerd like David Stern. He loves it.
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No thats what Im getting at he is loves all the PR, he’s saying how ‘bad’ it is while on the other hand pushing it. He enjoys the attention.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I know the history between the fighters.

I'm looking at it like the NBA, the first incident would be like a fight in the locker room.

I put last night on the same level as the fight in the crowd between the Pistons and the Pacers.

You don't go into the stands or the crowd.
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wasn’t really the crowd. Crowd doesn’t sit where the corner sits. They sit behind that. If you watch the footage, he didn’t just jump into the crowd. He jumped straight at dillon Danis. Nobody else was in harms way. Nothing even happened from it because the bodyguards stopped it real quick
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JoshuaHall said:
Except you didn’t have MMA fighters in the stands trying to cold clock fans. Not even remotely similar to the malice at the palace or else you would’ve had numerous fans leaving on stretchers. You had two fighters go at it outside the ring. It’s more akin to two basketball players fighting and ending up in the front row. You’ve also had Conor storm into a ring at a Bellator event & jump into the crowd and storm in Jose Aldo’s face.

And the first incident is no way similar to a locker room fight. That’s more like Z-Bo getting 30 of his goons to attack the opposing teams bus to try and get DMC off the bus so they can fight and ends up injuring multiple people in the process w/glass and dolly.

Like...

Khabib went after a fighter one on one in the crowd.

Conor took 30 people and tried to surround a bus and prevent it from leaving...
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Did you watch any clips of the brawl? It was not just two guys.
I just got done watching a clip of a couple people going at it in the crowd while a fighter jumps off the ring at them with a flying kick. A decent scuffle of some people happen there and at the same time another fight broke out in the ring.

Just saying, it was not just two people going at it in the crowd. Thats not even close to accurate.
 
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""Conor Mcgregor fans are like Trump Supporters, they can't even acknowledge reality or else they will see how utterly stupid they are."" ~Anonymous
 
They billed this fight as the biggest, most anticipated ever. Why? If you forget all the out-of-ring BS by MacGregor, there really isn't a whole lot to build up. They have history, but so do most guys in big fights. Khalid is an animal but just making a name for himself. Connor hasn't fought in a long time.
My point is, without the over the line shit talking by CM and the bus attack, the UFC didn't have much to build off. So yeah, the UFC is beyond hypocritical in how they used the incidents to promote after the lip service of how bad those actions were.
The UFC had a good thing going for a long time. One of the things that made it what it became was the simplicity of it all. Now they have delved into the world of WWE and for my money, it's not nearly as appealing as it was. Hopefully they learn from this and get back to the fights being the showcase.
 
Cheese22 said:
They billed this fight as the biggest, most anticipated ever. Why? If you forget all the out-of-ring BS by MacGregor, there really isn't a whole lot to build up. They have history, but so do most guys in big fights. Khalid is an animal but just making a name for himself. Connor hasn't fought in a long time.
My point is, without the over the line shit talking by CM and the bus attack, the UFC didn't have much to build off. So yeah, the UFC is beyond hypocritical in how they used the incidents to promote after the lip service of how bad those actions were.
The UFC had a good thing going for a long time. One of the things that made it what it became was the simplicity of it all. Now they have delved into the world of WWE and for my money, it's not nearly as appealing as it was. Hopefully they learn from this and get back to the fights being the showcase.
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Because it was. They are expecting it to break the previous PPV record (1.65MM) with some estimates going as high as 2.5MM buys. Even if it only hits 2MM that makes it the biggest event they've done from a PPV standpoint.

McGregor's awaited return to face arguably the best LW in MMA history, with whom his team had tremendous animosity, was more than enough to sell the fight.
 
speeds said:
Because it was. They are expecting it to break the previous PPV record (1.65MM) with some estimates going as high as 2.5MM buys. Even if it only hits 2MM that makes it the biggest event they've done from a PPV standpoint.

McGregor's awaited return to face arguably the best LW in MMA history, with whom his team had tremendous animosity, was more than enough to sell the fight.
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Dude, you missed the point of my post. I wasn't questioning whether or not it was the biggest fight ever. Obviously, when it breaks records, it is.
My point was the hypocrisy that Dana White showed in making it that big. The stunt CM pulled should have been enough that the UFC would just get rid of him. Instead, they use it to build up the storyline and profit from it. Total WWE move. And most of my friends have said they lost some respect for the UFC after last night.
Now, the ultimate test will be how they respond to this. Will the protect the authenticity of the sport or do they slap a couple wrists and use it to promote the sequel.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Did you watch any clips of the brawl? It was not just two guys.
I just got done watching a clip of a couple people going at it in the crowd while a fighter jumps off the ring at them with a flying kick. A decent scuffle of some people happen there and at the same time another fight broke out in the ring.

Just saying, it was not just two people going at it in the crowd. Thats not even close to accurate.
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I was there. So, didn’t need to watch clips. I had a great view. I have also watched a ton of clips as well because it was fucking hilarious.

People were going at it in the crowd no matter what. People were obnoxious all night. Drunk Russians, Drunk Americans, and drunk Irish.

The fighter jumped at ONE specific person, Dillon Danis, who is one of the best Brazilian jiu jitsu practitioners in the world as well as fighter in Bellator. That is where the corners are. The scuffle is people separating Danis from Khabib, they didn’t even go at it for more than a couple seconds. Most of them were security.

The scuffle in the ring has nothing to do with Khabib and scuffles have happened multiple times after fights in the ring. Werdum has thrown bombs at people for instance.

Also, where Khabib jumped, was Conor McGregors corner area.

In regards to Khabib, it was two guys... him and Dillon Danis.

Conor also threw the first punch at Khabibs brother, inciting the melee inside of the Octagon.
 
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