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How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
 
tlongII said:
I like to bare my arms in the summer. In the winter sometimes I wear long sleeves.
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Shoot, I was expecting a slightly more compelling response from you.
 
ABM said:
How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
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Did someone hack your account? Are you feeling ok?

But, really I agree with both your points, the background check system has failed and needs to be fixed terribly. Automatic weapons need to be fully banned from civillian use. Full autos already are, but semi automatics need to be included.
 
ABM said:
How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
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Good luck with that, but that is very unrepublican in today's party. Have you heard Moscow Mitch and his views on putting any new bills before the senate? He has stated he will not allow a vote on any bill unless trump pre-approves it which also prohibits any over ride of a veto by the president. Not exactly how a democracy is suppose to work and more like a dictatorship. Are you okay with that?
 
ABM said:
How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
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No hunter that knows his ass from a hole in the ground needs a semiautomatic or a high capacity magazine. That just makes it dangerous for honest hunters to be out in the woods. Anyone that knows the first thing about hunting carries a bolt action. The .240, 30-06, 7 mm and the .270 being the most common. I guess Weatherby makes some magnum sizes of the preceding calibers.
I was once in the woods hunting with a buddy when we heard a rapid succession of shots. We carefully avoiding hunting in that direction. Obvious loose nut.
A good hunter takes only one shot. If you're just moderate, you sometimes need two. I can't imagine needing more than three.
Some guys carry a .357 mag. or a .44 mag for varmint protection but I almost never carry one. My rifle is all the protection I need. Besides, I've got buddies with their own hunting rifles along for protection should I absolutely need it, some have larger bore rifles than mine.
Knife? A Buck folding knife.
 
Lanny said:
No hunter that knows his ass from a hole in the ground needs a semiautomatic or a high capacity magazine. That just makes it dangerous for honest hunters to be out in the woods. Anyone that knows the first thing about hunting carries a bolt action. The .240, 30-06, 7 mm and the .270 being the most common. I guess Weatherby makes some magnum sizes of the preceding calibers.
I was once in the woods hunting with a buddy when we heard a rapid succession of shots. We carefully avoiding hunting in that direction. Obvious loose nut.
A good hunter takes only one shot. If you're just moderate, you sometimes need two. I can't imagine needing more than three.
Some guys carry a .357 mag. or a .44 mag for varmint protection but I almost never carry one. My rifle is all the protection I need. Besides, I've got buddies with their own hunting rifles along for protection should I absolutely need it, some have larger bore rifles than mine.
Knife? A Buck folding knife.
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^This is what people should have guns for (and using similar guns for home protection I assume?). Everything else is unnecessary and serves no productive purpose outside our military.
 
ABM said:
How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
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You do realize that semi-automatic includes almost all pistols and quite a few hunting rifles?

Also, fully automatic rifles are illegal. Very few remain and they are heavily regulated.

This is the problem with most anti-gun discussions. People who don't know what they're talking about.
 
Why does anyone need a gun?

Yall really gonna shoot an intruder in the face if your house is getting broken in? Like you're legitimately gonna kill someone in cold blood?
 
Natebishop3 said:
You do realize that semi-automatic includes almost all pistols and quite a few hunting rifles?

Also, fully automatic rifles are illegal. Very few remain and they are heavily regulated.

This is the problem with most anti-gun discussions. People who don't know what they're talking about.
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No serious hunter takes a semi automatic hunting rifle with him because they are far far less accurate than a bolt action.
Perhaps pistols should be revolvers.
Perhaps pistols should be outlawed. Why? Because you can hide a pistol and use it to sneak up on a victim whereas a rifle or shotgun is very difficult to hide. I'm pretty sure most suicides and drive-bys or done with semiautomatic pistols which tend to be inaccurate and often hit an innocent bystander.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why does anyone need a gun?

Yall really gonna shoot an intruder in the face if your house is getting broken in? Like you're legitimately gonna kill someone in cold blood?
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A shotgun with bird loads will stop a motherfucker without killing them. That’s my philosophy. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for the death of another person, even if they broke into my house. And I can hunt birds with it.
 
2 yrs ago, I was walking home from work when a group of teenagers pulled up to me in a broke ass sedan. It looked like they were about to say something when the driver pulled out a BB gun and started shooting at me after rolling his window down. That shit looked like a real gun and scared the hell out of me forcing us to get up and move out of the neighborhood. That same day, they shot BBs at a construction worker down the street and it actually pierced his skin and got lodged in his neck.

When I told this to some colleagues, many openly said they would have shot back with a real gun had they been in my place and potentially killed a teenager.

Just no place in the world for this stuff.
 
illmatic99 said:
2 yrs ago, I was walking home from work when a group of teenagers pulled up to me in a broke ass sedan. It looked like they were about to say something when the driver pulled out a BB gun and started shooting at me after rolling his window down. That shit looked like a real gun and scared the hell out of me forcing us to get up and move out of the neighborhood. That same day, they shot BBs at a construction worker down the street and it actually pierced his skin and got lodged in his neck.

When I told this to some colleagues, many openly said they would have shot back with a real gun had they been in my place and potentially killed a teenager.

Just no place in the world for this stuff.
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You said yourself it looked like a real gun. So if you think you’re going to get shot for real, and happen to have a weapon yourself, you just stand there and wait for it? A teenager getting shot is unfortunate, but what in the actual fuck? Being a complete dipshit can get you killed in more ways than one, whether guns are involved or not.
 
jonnyboy said:
You said yourself it looked like a real gun. So if you think you’re going to get shot for real, and happen to have a weapon yourself, you just stand there and wait for it? A teenager getting shot is unfortunate, but what in the actual fuck? Being a complete dipshit can get you killed in more ways than one, whether guns are involved or not.
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Not to mention, a bb to a major neck artery or the larynx could potentially be deadly.
 
Lanny said:
No hunter that knows his ass from a hole in the ground needs a semiautomatic or a high capacity magazine. That just makes it dangerous for honest hunters to be out in the woods. Anyone that knows the first thing about hunting carries a bolt action. The .240, 30-06, 7 mm and the .270 being the most common. I guess Weatherby makes some magnum sizes of the preceding calibers.
I was once in the woods hunting with a buddy when we heard a rapid succession of shots. We carefully avoiding hunting in that direction. Obvious loose nut.
A good hunter takes only one shot. If you're just moderate, you sometimes need two. I can't imagine needing more than three.
Some guys carry a .357 mag. or a .44 mag for varmint protection but I almost never carry one. My rifle is all the protection I need. Besides, I've got buddies with their own hunting rifles along for protection should I absolutely need it, some have larger bore rifles than mine.
Knife? A Buck folding knife.
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Some of my friends are avid hunters and they use crossbows rather than rifles.

It is quite the experience in the great outdoors of Alaska.
 
illmatic99 said:
2 yrs ago, I was walking home from work when a group of teenagers pulled up to me in a broke ass sedan. It looked like they were about to say something when the driver pulled out a BB gun and started shooting at me after rolling his window down. That shit looked like a real gun and scared the hell out of me forcing us to get up and move out of the neighborhood. That same day, they shot BBs at a construction worker down the street and it actually pierced his skin and got lodged in his neck.

When I told this to some colleagues, many openly said they would have shot back with a real gun had they been in my place and potentially killed a teenager.

Just no place in the world for this stuff.
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Someone pointing a bb gun at others will eventually have someone shoot back. Then the person with the bb gun will become a darwin award nominee.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why does anyone need a gun?

Yall really gonna shoot an intruder in the face if your house is getting broken in? Like you're legitimately gonna kill someone in cold blood?
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Home intruders is not the reason for the second amendment.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why does anyone need a gun?

Yall really gonna shoot an intruder in the face if your house is getting broken in? Like you're legitimately gonna kill someone in cold blood?
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If an intruder entered my house and I saw that he was armed, yes I would use my weapon to protect myself. I wouldn't at all want to kill someone. I wouldn't ever kill someone in cold blood, but there are intruders that would in a second, because they could care less about you as a person, thats why they have intruded. Im an old fart and will always defend myself regardless of age.
If the person wasn't armed and I felt I could communicate enough to rid him/her that would be great!
 
Hoopguru said:
If an intruder entered my house and I saw that he was armed, yes I would use my weapon to protect myself. I wouldn't at all want to kill someone. I wouldn't ever kill someone in cold blood, but there are intruders that would in a second, because they could care less about you as a person, thats why they have intruded. Im an old fart and will always defend myself regardless of age.
If the person wasn't armed and I felt I could communicate enough to rid him/her that would be great!
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The stupidity of it all and what the republican platform has been is that they claim the democrats are trying to take all guns away which is nothing but bullshit. Just like they say the democrats want open borders for people to freely come and go across our border. Another bullshit false claim.
 
CupWizier said:
The stupidity of it all and what the republican platform has been is that they claim the democrats are trying to take all guns away which is nothing but bullshit. Just like they say the democrats want open borders for people to freely come and go across our border. Another bullshit false claim.
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Agree and guns, but I feel there are a couple of candidates that would welcome open borders.
The key is being responsible for, and sound management of both.
 
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Hobbesarable said:
Some of my friends are avid hunters and they use crossbows rather than rifles.

It is quite the experience in the great outdoors of Alaska.
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Two of my hunting buddies occasionally use a bow and arrow, not a cross bow.
 
ABM said:
How do you guys feel about this? I'm all OK with fully-authorized, law-abiding citizens owning weapons, but:

1) The background check system (or lack thereof) seems totally broken and, in my opinion, needs to be completely revamped/modernized. I really hope Congress can get something done here.

2) Automatic weapons need to be completely outlawed. Whether semi or full, I'm not certain, but there's no place in our society for these mass killing machines.
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I'm ok with banning all guns in all forms and repealing the 2nd amendment.

Anyone who uses a gun to kill someone is an automatic death penalty. Possession of a gun = life in prison.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I'm ok with banning all guns in all forms and repealing the 2nd amendment.

Anyone who uses a gun to kill someone is an automatic death penalty. Possession of a gun = life in prison.
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Might as well hang anyone stealing a loaf of bread.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I'm ok with banning all guns in all forms and repealing the 2nd amendment.

Anyone who uses a gun to kill someone is an automatic death penalty. Possession of a gun = life in prison.
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:tongue:
It has no chance of approval, but you knew already.
 
HailBlazers said:
Like China, or North Korea?
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Singapore.

https://www.thefinder.com.sg/health...hat-life-without-guns-singapore-expat-andrea/

Singapore has no guns. In fact, it has one of the toughest and most successful gun control laws in the world – according to the 1973 Arms Offences Act, unlawful possession or carrying of firearms is punishable with imprisonment of up to 14 years and caning of six strokes. Worse, using or attempting to use arms when committing a scheduled offense is punishable with death, as is trafficking in arms.

It’s pretty clear around here. No guns.

So, many people outside of Singapore wonder what that’s like. Here you go: It’s awesome. We don’t need them because we feel safe; and we feel safe because people do not have guns. We don’t have to worry about how unstable or angry people might react if they lost it and had access to guns. Because, no guns.
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