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A physical GIANT, accused by his girlfriend of violent behavior, refuses to cooperate with officers who came to her rescue, instead presenting a physical and immediate threat to all there, despite dozens of warnings for him to comply.

Nothing at all to see here except a spoiled millionaire brat, a woman-beater playing his race card.
 
I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop at this point.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I know. You can't even harass minorities in good fun anymore...

Without that, what's the point?
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Seriously though, why would anyone want to be a cop? Everyone hates you. Even if you're actually a good person, people call you a bastard and shit on you. I wouldn't want that job.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Seriously though, why would anyone want to be a cop? Everyone hates you. Even if you're actually a good person, people call you a bastard and shit on you. I wouldn't want that job.
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Yeah, but you can only protect a bully so long before you get lumped in as an asshole. The system needs to change. Police in other countries are far more professional than the police we have. The police we have are either corrupt, or they cover for the corrupt police. Which makes them part of a corrupt system.

It needs to be fixed. The US can no longer get away with our current system, which basically uses civilians as livestock.

We need a system which actually helps people turn their lives around. The right kind of people will want to be a part of a system like that.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah, but you can only protect a bully so long before you get lumped in as an asshole. The system needs to change. Police in other countries are far more professional than the police we have. The police we have are either corrupt, or they cover for the corrupt police. Which makes them part of a corrupt system.

It needs to be fixed. The US can no longer get away with our current system, which basically uses civilians as livestock.

We need a system which actually helps people turn their lives around. The right kind of people will want to be a part of a system like that.
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But it isn’t one system. It’s thousands of systems. That’s why it won’t change. Not wholesale. You’re talking literally thousands of state, city and county police departments. Oregon probably has a few hundred different departments. Portland metro has how many 15-20? You’re talking about a change that has to happen in every single department.

I looked it up. Almost 18k police agencies in the US. Holy shit.
 
MARIS61 said:
A physical GIANT, accused by his girlfriend of violent behavior, refuses to cooperate with officers who came to her rescue, instead presenting a physical and immediate threat to all there, despite dozens of warnings for him to comply.

Nothing at all to see here except a spoiled millionaire brat, a woman-beater playing his race card.
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Racist trolling is racist trolling. Shame it's allowed to go on.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But it isn’t one system. It’s thousands of systems. That’s why it won’t change. Not wholesale. You’re talking literally thousands of state, city and county police departments. Oregon probably has a few hundred different departments. Portland metro has how many 15-20? You’re talking about a change that has to happen in every single department.

I looked it up. Almost 18k police agencies in the US. Holy shit.
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Yeah. That should probably change as well. There needs to be a federal, nation wide standard which all police officers are held to. And a police officer who violates that
standard should be barred from any official position of state sanctioned power.
 
@dviss1

lets talk serious for a moment.

we know how our phones and computers have algorithms to show us what they think we want to see. This is preventing us from seeing all sides or both sides more often than not because our searches are omitting things.

for example. I know i watched a video last year of some cops who pulled over and played with some kids. Good cops. Played hoops with the kids.
But when i search for “ cops pull over aNd play with kids” it doesn't show up for a couple pages. I get the opposite. Bad cop stories.
Do you think this something happening to you? Because the corps think you want to see and read about bad cops, thats all the access they give you? Is to stories of bad cops?

I found the video. I clicked on it. I watch it and them a couple other similar videos. i did the search again aNd wHat? Second from the top is a video of a cop pulling over and playing with a couple toddlers and their pedal car.

With all the directional/missinformation, do you think its possible there are good cops and that you are being denied the information due to the algorithms google and the like have created?


There is no doubt we need wholesale reform in recruitment, training and psychoanalysis of recruits, but not all cops are bad. I have personal first hand experiences telling me otherwise. Rare? Sure. But its not a 100% thing.
And before anyone says, if they were good, they would leave the force,

put yourself in thier shoes. If you truly wanted to do others good, would those morals outweigh the pressure to leave because the larger sect may be corrupt?


Sorry of it was me id remain a cop, not only to fight the internal issues of the police force but also to maintain my deeds of wanting to help others.

shits waaayyy too complicated to just say all cops are bad and when i hear that im going to push back, because i know first hand its not true.
For me, the real fight should be against large corp and the entities controlling our access to information.
We will never know who is truly good or bad until se make sure the news and information se receive is accurate, complete and all encompassing.
Currently we have none of this in our individual information flow and search for answers to our questions.

you hate cops so your feed is just gonna give you bad cop stories. Doesn't mean there aren't good cop stories as well. I think you may be being denied access to such stories.
 
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theprunetang said:
There should be mandatory degree requirements, just like any other fucking job that means anything.
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You will take away a massive career option for veterans who are just getting out of the military.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You will take away a massive career option for veterans who are just getting out of the military.
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as part of redemption for their services, their schooling should be free if they so choose to go into that field after the military. But are trained military really the best recruits for domestic peacing?

my thought is we give the military the choice of trade they would like
to go into and we pay for their schooling in that trade and help locate them solid employment.
Leave the domestic policing left for those better trained for the issues that arise.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop at this point.
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Or teacher or nurses.

It's going to be a real fun country to living in, in about 5 years.

I also can't wait for all the unwanted Texas babies to grow up and start "contributing" to society.
 
Orion Bailey said:
@dviss1

lets talk serious for a moment.

we know how our phones and computers have algorithms to show us what they think we want to see. This is preventing us from seeing all sides or both sides more often than not because our searches are omitting things.

for example. I know i watched a video last year of some cops who pulled over and played with some kids. Good cops. Played hoops with the kids.
But when i search for “ cops pull over aNd play with kids” it doesn't show up for a couple pages. I get the opposite. Bad cop stories.
Do you think this something happening to you? Because the corps think you want to see and read about bad cops, thats all the access they give you? Is to stories of bad cops?

I found the video. I clicked on it. I watch it and them a couple other similar videos. i did the search again aNd wHat? Second from the top is a video of a cop pulling over and playing with a couple toddlers and their pedal car.

With all the directional/missinformation, do you think its possible there are good cops and that you are being denied the information due to the algorithms google and the like have created?


There is no doubt we need wholesale reform in recruitment, training and psychoanalysis of recruits, but not all cops are bad. I have personal first hand experiences telling me otherwise. Rare? Sure. But its not a 100% thing.
And before anyone says, if they were good, they would leave the force,

put yourself in thier shoes. If you truly wanted to do others good, would those morals outweigh the pressure to leave because the larger sect may be corrupt?


Sorry of it was me id remain a cop, not only to fight the internal issues of the police force but also to maintain my deeds of wanting to help others.

shits waaayyy too complicated to just say all cops are bad and when i hear that im going to push back, because i know first hand its not true.
For me, the real fight should be against large corp and the entities controlling our access to information.
We will never know who is truly good or bad until se make sure the news and information se receive is accurate, complete and all encompassing.
Currently we have none of this in our individual information flow and search for answers to our questions.

you hate cops so your feed is just gonna give you bad cop stories. Doesn't mean there aren't good cop stories as well. I think you may be being denied access to such stories.
Click to expand...

Or maybe for every good cop story there are 50 bad cop stories because that's reality
 
Orion Bailey said:
@dviss1

lets talk serious for a moment.

we know how our phones and computers have algorithms to show us what they think we want to see. This is preventing us from seeing all sides or both sides more often than not because our searches are omitting things.

for example. I know i watched a video last year of some cops who pulled over and played with some kids. Good cops. Played hoops with the kids.
But when i search for “ cops pull over aNd play with kids” it doesn't show up for a couple pages. I get the opposite. Bad cop stories.
Do you think this something happening to you? Because the corps think you want to see and read about bad cops, thats all the access they give you? Is to stories of bad cops?

I found the video. I clicked on it. I watch it and them a couple other similar videos. i did the search again aNd wHat? Second from the top is a video of a cop pulling over and playing with a couple toddlers and their pedal car.

With all the directional/missinformation, do you think its possible there are good cops and that you are being denied the information due to the algorithms google and the like have created?


There is no doubt we need wholesale reform in recruitment, training and psychoanalysis of recruits, but not all cops are bad. I have personal first hand experiences telling me otherwise. Rare? Sure. But its not a 100% thing.
And before anyone says, if they were good, they would leave the force,

put yourself in thier shoes. If you truly wanted to do others good, would those morals outweigh the pressure to leave because the larger sect may be corrupt?


Sorry of it was me id remain a cop, not only to fight the internal issues of the police force but also to maintain my deeds of wanting to help others.

shits waaayyy too complicated to just say all cops are bad and when i hear that im going to push back, because i know first hand its not true.
For me, the real fight should be against large corp and the entities controlling our access to information.
We will never know who is truly good or bad until se make sure the news and information se receive is accurate, complete and all encompassing.
Currently we have none of this in our individual information flow and search for answers to our questions.

you hate cops so your feed is just gonna give you bad cop stories. Doesn't mean there aren't good cop stories as well. I think you may be being denied access to such stories.
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Nobody thinks 100% of police are evil people. But they are all part of an evil system.

Giving one the benefit of the doubt only reduces the pressure to change. And the change HAS to come from the system, not the citizens.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You will take away a massive career option for veterans who are just getting out of the military.
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Part of the problem. Ex military should not be able to be police. They are trained to kill, they are violent, and mentally unstable.

Pay them retirement. They are back from duty. Their career is done.
 
Orion Bailey said:
as part of redemption for their services, their schooling should be free if they so choose to go into that field after the military. But are trained military really the best recruits for domestic peacing?

my thought is we give the military the choice of trade they would like
to go into and we pay for their schooling in that trade and help locate them solid employment.
Leave the domestic policing left for those better trained for the issues that arise.
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How about we just pay for all of that training for everyone?
It would pay dividends to our economy.
 
Chris Craig said:
Part of the problem. Ex military should not be able to be police. They are trained to kill, they are violent, and mentally unstable.

Pay them retirement. Their career is done.
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Agreed. However, the USPS is a great place for them, IMO.
 
Chris Craig said:
Or maybe for every good cop story there are 50 bad cop stories because that's reality
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Media reports what it wants to report. Just because those are the stories reported doesnt make the numbers reality on the streets.

Phatguysrule said:
Nobody thinks 100% of police are evil people. But they are all part of an evil system.
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Read the thread title again.

Phatguysrule said:
Giving one the benefit of the doubt only reduces the pressure to change. And the change HAS to come from the system, not the citizens.
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I never said all cops should have the benefit of the doubt, but they shouldn't all be prejudged guilty when many have never before been in a controversial incident.
How many bad cop police stories in the last 5 years. 1000? (Pulling that number out of my, but i bet its less)
How many cops in the nation? 100,000?( another numbers out of my ass, but i bet its much more)


I was addressing the thread title and how someone i respect can believe that every cop is bad(based on the thread title)

so in essence, both of you have just agreed with me.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Media reports what it wants to report. Just because those are the stories reported doesnt make the numbers reality on the streets.



Read the thread title again.



I never said all cops should have the benefit of the doubt, but they shouldn't all be prejudged guilty when many have never before been in a controversial incident.
How many bad cop police stories in the last 5 years. 1000? (Pulling that number out of my, but i bet its less)
How many cops in the nation? 100,000?( another numbers out of my ass, but i bet its much more)


I was addressing the thread title and how someone i respect can believe that every cop is bad(based on the thread title)

so in essence, both of you have just agreed with me.
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Phatguy was trying to tell you what the title was inferring. Every cop is bad because they are part of a bad system. Some are corrupt, most others who aren't turn a blind eye to those who are. All of them are part of a system that is inherently biased against black people.
 
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