The league has massively changed since Rose was an MVP. It has shifted drastically towards three point shooting. Westbrook has been terrible for his teams since the league shifted.
Smaller Russel Westbrook vibes. That can be great, it can also be a real issue when that athletic ability fades...
Russ' athleticism actually has lasted him a long time. Rose or Wall is the scary comparison that you might be thinking of.
I have not seen Scoot enough to tell, but to me at least, both Rose and Wall, when healthy, had more skill than Westbrook. At least from the very limited amount that I have seen Scoot, it was more Westbrook than Rose / Wall, but I am really not pretending to be conversant with everything he can do.
here is something: https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/is-scoot-henderson-the-2nd-best-player the entire article is an interesting read. Whether or not the author is full of shit I don't know I don't know how the guy got to Scoot shooting 34.5% on three's. Scoot shot 27% in g-league. Maybe he adjusted for the difference in distance of the 3-point line in the NCAA I think he makes a somewhat valid point about the lack of defensive resistance Scoot faced. accounting for Scoot's actual 3ptFG% + 2ptFG% lands Scoot as the worst shooter among all those guys, and again, this was against the weakest defense
Went to a signing with Dame and Wall back in the day. Always thought a defensive guard like him could pair well. Blazers should suit Dame up for Scoots workout and see if the young kid could stop him, D is key.
Something interesting that I'm looking at 2FGM%AST is the number of 2 pointers made that were assisted. 35.6% of his 2 pointers were assisted. To me, this means he can play off the ball. To put this into comparison, Dame's 2FGM%AST is 15.7%. His 3FGM%AST is a lot closer to Dame though. 42.9% compared to Dame's 48.4%. The dude doesn't shoot many 3s though. 81% of his shots are 2PT. Compare that to Dame who only has 33.4% for 2.
If it happens before June 30, Portland can take Claxton into the GPII TPE. Salary wise, Nurk + anyone (Walker, Keon, Knox or Little) for Bridges works.
How do we want to play? I prefer fast paced and putting the pressure on the defense. That's how you get easy buckets and free throws. Shaedon has shown he's fantastic in transition already. Would be nice to have someone like Morant.
Scoot is not a very good defensive player lol. Too small to guard bigger players, and lack discipline to stay in front of guards consistently. He get the highlights but overall horrible defender
The only person relevant in this thread is Scoot Henderson. If you think Scoot is going to be an ineffective NBA player, or mediocre, just say so. If you think Scoot will be effective, then the comparisons with John Wall etc don't matter anyway.
Ja was still great with no jumper. We don't know that Scoot won't improve his jumper either. Shooting is very important for the team, but if the other players on the court can shoot having the player with the ball as a non shooter is fine. Think of Westbrook in his MVP seasons. He can just run around breaking down the defense with the threat of getting layups at the rim, and kicking to shooters for open 3's when the defense collapses. The problem is when Westbrook or players like that are playing off the ball, such as being paired with LeBron/AD, whom are average shooters themselves. Then the entire offense has poor spacing and collapses. Also Westbrook had an insanely poor basketball IQ and situational awareness. He would jack up horrific shots at the worst times in the 4th quarter or freeze out Durant. If you put a player with good IQ but the same questionable jumper in those spots he could've won titles.
Gleague defense isn't worse than NCAA. NCAA has freshmen in college - Gleague has grown men trying to make their way into the NBA.
That's the problem. We don't know. But just looking at those other guys, they were all decent in college and really bad shooters in their rookie season, except Morant. Russ shot 35% from three in college, and 27% in his rookie season. Rose shot 33.7% from three in college, and 22% in his rookie season. Wall shot 32.5% from three in college, and 29.6% in his rookie season. Morant shot 34.3% from three in college, and 33.5% in his rookie season. The good news is that Rose eventually increased his shooting percentage and actually got to over 40% twice much later in his career.
Morant actually is a way better shooter than Scoot. He's bad.... but he's still way better than Scoot.
