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mook said:
Before going on about pre-season, sample size, etc, consider this: Noah Vonleh has played 162 regular season games for the Blazers. How many of those games has he looked as good as Swanigan did against Phoenix in his first game ever? I'll grant that the number is not zero, but it's certainly less than 10.

Last year Vonleh, with 41 starts and playing 72 games, never once scored more than 12 points in a game. Caleb beat that number after playing around 12 minutes, going on to get 18.

Noah had 9 games last year where he pulled down more than 9 rebounds. Caleb grabs 6 his first night. Noah pulled down 6 or more rebounds in just 24 games, or 1/3 of the games he played last year. Rebounding and hustle is supposed to be his calling card. .

Swanigan (age 19) is way, way ahead of a 3rd year vet (age 22) who was our starting PF for most of last year. It's just plain as day.

The big question in my mind is if you want a really young Zach Randolph-type at PF (Swanigan) or more of an Andre Kirelenko-type (Collins). Who fits this team better in the long-term? How do those piece line up with our Big 3? Aside from (hopefully) the emergence of Nurkic, I think this could be the big defining story of this season.
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Swanigan is 20, not 19.

I do like him, but you are cherry picking a bit here. Swanigan has shown no signs of being as mobile as Vonleh on defense. If he can come close to Vonleh there, then I agree Biggie is better. I'm not sure we will truly see that.

I do also agree with others that down the road I could see Collins as starting PF and Swanigan coming off the bench.
 
dviss1 said:
Nah, it was about @HCP. That's low hanging fruit.
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Reep said:
Swanigan is 20, not 19.

I do like him, but you are cherry picking a bit here. Swanigan has shown no signs of being as mobile as Vonleh on defense. If he can come close to Vonleh there, then I agree Biggie is better. I'm not sure we will truly see that.

I do also agree with others that down the road I could see Collins as starting PF and Swanigan coming off the bench.
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Great post! Oh that's right you have me on IGNORE. you can't see the compliment I just posted.
 
Shit, I'm getting so old. I remember watching Chandler play in the Les Schwab Invitational late 90s!
 
honkicracker said:
I'm going to hold judgement on any bigs Portland has until I see them play against other quality NBA bigs.
The Suns do not have any sort of quality in their bigs. Chandler is their best big and he can only play 10 minutes a night.
Remember, last preseason everyone on this board after the Phoenix game thought Vonleh was going to make a jump.
Calm your tits.

http://www.nba.com/blazers/forwardcenter/vonlehs-sweat-equity-pays-versus-suns/
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Len is a quality center.
 
I love biggie. But I think he and Collins should BOTH come off the bench.

I'll go against the grain and say Davis should start.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Swanigan did not play crunch time tonight, which I think confirms that he's in the rotation, and being considered for the starting PF.
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I don't think he'll start initially but I do see him as the PF on the second unit with Davis at C. They compliment each other well and will cause havoc on the glass.
 
Scalma said:
I don't think he'll start initially but I do see him as the PF on the second unit with Davis at C. They compliment each other well and will cause havoc on the glass.
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I wouldn't mind that either. I like how Swanigan gives us a scorer of the bench.
 
Collins right now the front runner backing up Nurk. I think Biggie could start for the Blazers. I know Vonleh properly sitting saying oh shit why did I get hurt.
 
Drastically understating Vonleh’s upside. We finally have some good promising young players!
 
We got 2 steals in this draft. We got 2 players whose progress will keep us on our toes all season long. While the media will be focusing on Lonzo, OKC, Houston, T-Wolves, ... the Blazers will sneak ahead of these 4 teams, because we have the more complete roster.
When we add Nurk, we basically have a completely new front court this season.
I wish we could trade a combination of Chief, Mo, ML, ET for a solid SF.
 
I won't mock out your post. You are excited to see Swanigan/Nurk and its' all positive. We can all solicit negative opinions when our team becomes ordinary, stale and loses a lot.
 
stampedehero said:
I won't mock out your post. You are excited to see Swanigan/Nurk and its' all positive. We can all solicit negative opinions when our team becomes ordinary, stale and loses a lot.
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Thanks for passing on that. He made me smile.
 
dviss1 said:
I think we should re-sign Davis. He'll be cheap.

Butters, Butters, Butters, Butters, Butters, Layman, Pat, Aminu, Vonleh.

Off the team. In that order.
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We're stuck with Butters. Who is going to take him?
 
One of the most exciting things to me last night was that Biggie was taking on Ibaka, and very much seemed like the better player.

Though, yes, I understand that it's preseason, and Ibaka doesn't take it as seriously as Biggie. Still, great to see as a Blazers fan.
 
tlongII said:
I like Harkless and ET. They are our SF's and will do just fine. Nurk, Biggie, Big Ed, Collins, and Vonleh should rotate through our 4 and 5 spots.
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I'm still not an Evan Turner fan. I don't buy the mumbo jumbo about him "taking the pressure off Lillard and CJ". When Dame and CJ are in the game, they'll be dominating the ball. His skill as a ball handler is useful off the bench, since this team doesn't have many ball handlers. Napier is the only other guy off the bench that's a ball handler.

Harkless is much better in the SL. He's great at diving to the hoop and scoring, and he's a better shooter than Turner.
 
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