OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

https://katu.com/news/local/king-co...d-clots-after-getting-johnson-johnson-vaccine

Seattle mother who died from blood clots got J&J vaccine to be child's 'room mom'

 

Dude, there is no way in this day in age that you believe what you just typed. Good Lord. This will never end…..

 

I must ask, but have a feeling I know the answer…..how many loved ones or close friends of yours have died from COVID?
NO WAY you think this way if you’ve lost people to it. NO FUCKING WAY!

 

But someone on Facebook said so!

 

You don't get it.

I was refuting the fact that vaccinated people do pose a risk to those around them. How are you debating that when 25% of the cases are among the vaccinated?

To answer your question, I think I have already in the thread, but yes, I do have people close to me that have died of covid. I know them personally. Thanks for your concern.

And once again, for the record, i've been vaccinated for almost 6 months now.

 

not true. Facebook doesn't work anymore i heard.

 

First of all...covid is here and everyone can breathe it in or touch the wrong handle or get it in your body vaccinated or not...it's just that being vaccinated will keep you alive more than not being vaccinated....if you mask or face shield up...wash hands often..use hand sanitizers and stay far enough away from public contact you'll probably have a very slim chance of getting it or giving it to anyone.....this shit is in the air ....it's not a team sport and if you're vaccinated you should still follow safety protocol until we're out of the woods with this shit.....good luck to all! Get vaccinated and if you want to gamble with your chances...please avoid breathing on your neighbors and your kids...

 

Well done. But….everything you write is factual and has data to prove it, and neither is something people like him will accept. It’s over. There are those who will vaccinate and those who won’t. They are either scared of a shot, won’t be told what to do, believe in conspiracy theories or all of the above. Not exactly the Einsteins of the world. At this point hardly anyone is left who is “on the fence”. I just hope smart people who do the right thing can avoid being fucked over by the idiots.

 

You know there is no vaccine for common cold till this point of great human history? They just can't make it. It is bc cold is a Upper Respiratory Infection. Simply put, you got it in your nose first and it grows just there. Amount of antibodies your body can provide to this area with your blood is to small to fight there. That's why you can get common cold every year, even if you got a lot of antibodies in your blood and it is not dangerous for you.

Covid is URI as well. Its spreading works just like spreading of common cold.
So vaccine provides protection to your body after you get covid, but it can not protect you from catching it and spreading it, no matter how many times you use "obvious" word.

Another thing, medical experiment is not conspiracy theory. If you read WHO and listen to WHO experts, they have pretty different view of the situation than you. It is funny how experts doctors are not really sure about things, but you are They said time will tell if and how vaccine work and it is a work in progress. They said, they have to observe it and react for what's happening.


I don't know everything, sometimes I think I overthinkin this, but surely, I don't base my life decisions on television or political views.

 

This fucking sucks. It's true. But it's disgraceful. It really just fucking sucks.

 

the common cold doesnt kill 4.6 million people in one year.

 

It's true. But it that kind of folks are on both sides of the story.

 

Except the numbers show the vaccine offers exceptional protection. Unvaccinated people are 5x more likely to be infected. Meaning the vaccinated are each at least 5x less likely to spread it.

The fact that there are fewer symptoms for a shorter time just adds to that.

 

ya, the right and the wrong.

 

Have I compared death rate here? Or maybe I just told you how URI works?

 

bro, i just can't with these clowns anymore...

 

Ok. I am still on a fence here, so show me the numbers.

 

You behave exactly like that kind of man. I provide you and argument and you are just using clowns against it. One day of discussing this stuff on basketball forum is my limit anyway.

 

about 1.5 yrs ago, in summer 2020, i posted here in this thread about a seminar my previous company hosted (big pharma that coincidentally had some covid therapies approved, i work in research). it was the doc who identified the very first case in the city who was back giving an update to scientists working in R&D and volunteering in testing efforts.

he stressed then that a massive effort was being conducted to prepare people for education about the upcoming vaccine and the nuances that come with it. i dismissed it thinking that after the stringent lockdowns and massive upheaval in all our lives ( and the death and grief we all experienced), that this was a waste of $ and resources. surely no one would ignore science.

ugh