Dame on Brandon Roy

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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Lol questioning if dame gets his number retired. I definitely needed that laugh.
     
  2. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Championships is no way to measure a players greatness, I'm sorry. Will Perdue on Line 1.....Karl Malone and Barkley on Line 2 and 3
     
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    Will Perdue and Steve Kerr used to joke that they both had more rings than Jordan and Pippen...they won with the Bulls and the Spurs as teammates
     
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    I don't think you're remembering that right... Perdue won 3 with the Bulls and 1 with the Spurs. Kerr won 3 with the Bulls and 2 with the Spurs. Jordan and Pippen won 6. And since the Spurs titles came later, at no point did Perdue/Kerr have more rings than Jordan/Pippen.
     
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    Doesn't Phil Jackson have like 11 rings or something?
     
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    That sounds right. 6 with the Bulls, 3 with the Lakers, and I think 2 as a player.
     
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    11 as coach: 6 with the Bulls, 5 with the Lakers
     
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    I’m only using the earlier poster’s reasoning as to why Roy ‘s number should not be retired. He listed off: no MVP, no rings, etc.

    Begs the question: what criteria should be used in determining the retiring of a player’s number versus some other form of recognition, ie: Ring of Honor, etc.
     
  9. Phatguysrule

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    Retiring a players jersey should be reserved for franchise altering players.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    For me, it's really determining if we think that no other player should ever wear that number again. I can't see any other player ever wearing the #0 again for this team. I can't see anyone else wearing 22 or 32 but that's kinda it for me. Maybe #20 for Lucas.

    We have a lot of guys that we loved and we are nostalgic for, but should their number never be worn again? I don't think so.

    Roy is borderline. I don't think LMA should have his number retired. To me, even though CJ never mad an All-Star team, I think he and LMA are basically on the same level of importance to the team. Same with Sheed. Same with ZBO. They're good players who played really well in a Blazers uniform, but they're not the kind of player that you retire their number.
     
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    Agreed.
     
  12. Chris Craig

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    His number shouldn't be retired. We should put up a banner retiring his knees.
     
  13. andalusian

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    I think UW retired his knees. We just got him as a post-retirement temporary helper. Kind of like Sabas. Would have been awesome to see either one of these in full health in the NBA.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    The young Sabonis was a dynamic force. He could go basket to basket, and finish with the slam. That Blazers team of the early '90's get 2 championships with the young Sabonis, IMO. His knees were toast, and his body too big by the time he got to our team.
     
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    ok! Sounds good but can you elaborate?

    Lloyd Neal? Helped the franchise win its only championship, coming off the bench.

    like this?
     
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    No, they would have won that without him. I'm ok with the starters getting #s retired.

    Aside from them, Petrie, Drexler, and Dame.
     
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    Can someone explain why Neal, Twardzik and Steele have their numbers retired? I wasn’t alive when they won the title, but just by looking at their numbers, we should be retiring Travis Outlaw’s number.
     
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    Imagine them together, healthy and in their prime!
     
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    The Blazers won the title in the first season they ever made the playoffs. I believe it was the 7th season in the league. They had no history, until then. Neal was a later round pick that still holds Blazers single season rebound record filling in for an injured Walton. Steele was an early Blazer as well. Led the league in steals one season. They are retired because the owner loved them. Twardzik, Gross and Hollins as a tip of the cap for the championship. Lucas and Walton are no brainers. Yes, it was a mistake to retire numbers of fringe players, but they were trying to create a legacy.
     
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    Roy is one of my all-time favorite players and I absolutely do not think he should have his jersey retired due to a lot of the reasons already mentioned in this thread and also because I think that sort of thing needs to be reserved for a very select few players who are truly transcendent, and when it isn't it cheapens what it means to have your jersey retired.

    Roy was on his way there but sadly he only scored about 6,000 points in a Blazers uniform and never won a playoff series. What would we be retiring it for exactly? Two fun seasons and some game winners?
     
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