Dame on Brandon Roy

[tykendo]

Petrie as well. Wicks had some amazing years, but that was before my Blazers fandom started.

 

[Ed O]

No, he doesn't deserve to have his number retired.

And MAYBE he'd be the best all-time Blazer if (a) he'd stayed healthy, and (b) he would have played his whole career as a Blazer. But that's two big "buts".

Who's the top five of guys who started (or darn-near did so, so no Pippen-type allowed, but I'd let Rasheed slip in there) his career as a Blazer, would have stayed entirely healthy, and would have stayed a Blazer?

Off the top of my head:

1. Bill Walton
2. Greg Oden
3. Damian Lillard
4. Clyde Drexler (although if he had been a Blazer his whole career and not kinda mailed it in, maybe he would have been higher)
5. Brandon Roy...?

Maybe Sam Bowie lands up there somewhere. Or Rasheed Wallace.

Who else?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Can someone explain why Neal, Twardzik and Steele have their numbers retired? I wasn’t alive when they won the title, but just by looking at their numbers, we should be retiring Travis Outlaw’s number.

They played well enough to help deliver our only championship. And they did it against one of the first super teams.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I know that as an old timer I'll get some eye rolls for trotting out what is ancient history for most on this site but.......Lloyd Neal is without a doubt one of the most (if not THE most) under appreciated Blazers of all time. You would have had to watch him over the course of his career to "get" it. He was 6'7" at most, but if you tracked his advanced stats (that didn't exist when he played) he would have been at the top (or over) on most charts. His rebounding alone for his size was truly impressive. And no matter what, the guy kept his head down, his mouth shut and his butt in high gear. The year following the championship the Blazers were the hottest team in the league and almost a lock for another championship. When Walton went down, Portland (literally) hardly missed a beat because Neal stepped in and over the course of the next 4-5 games averaged twenty plus points AND rebounds per game. And we kept winning. Then HIS knees went and THAT is when their wheels actually fell off of that team. I still believe we would have won a ring that year if Neal had stayed healthy, Walton be damned. Which also underlines how much Twardzik, Steele, Hollins, et al meant to team. It's only if we win another championship that people will truly understand how important the role players are compared to the "stars".......and then they'll understand the reverence with which we hold them.....and why.

Jack Ramsay said Twardzik (correction GROSS, not Twardzik) outplayed Dr J in that series. I'm on board with retiring those guys.

 

[RR7]

Jack Ramsay said Twardzik outplayed Dr J in that series. I'm on board with retiring those guys.

Player A 30.3 ppg /6.8 rpg /5 apg / 2.7 spg / 1.1 BPG / 54% FG / 42/49, 86% FT / 2.8 PFs / 41.3 MPG

Player B 6.7 ppg / 1.3 rpg / 1.5 apg / 1 spg / .2 bpg / 46% FG / 14/22, 64% FT / 2.5 PFs / 16.2 MPG

Which one played better?!

Gimme a break. It takes a Mike Barrett level of homerism to say or believe that shit.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Player A 30.3 ppg /6.8 rpg /5 apg / 2.7 spg / 1.1 BPG / 54% FG / 42/49, 86% FT / 2.8 PFs / 41.3 MPG

Player B 6.7 ppg / 1.3 rpg / 1.5 apg / 1 spg / .2 bpg / 46% FG / 14/22, 64% FT / 2.5 PFs / 16.2 MPG

Which one played better?!

Gimme a break. It takes a Mike Barrett level of homerism to say or believe that shit.

Actually, you know what, Dr Jack said Gross (not Twardzik) outplayed Dr J. That was my bad.