I've never seen anything as blatant as CNN constantly attacking and framing questions against Bernie Sanders. Shame on them. They are supposed to at least appear impartial but it was apparent they were carrying water for a whole lot of industries who are deathly afraid of a Bernie presidency.
I thought the same thing. Pretty shitty moderation and they were trying really hard to provoke fights. Bernie is the current lead so he got it worse than usual. It's not worth complaining about though because the anti Sanders crowd justifies and relishes in bias with irrational statements like Despite his lead in the polls and strong following.
Everyone seems to be coming around on Steyer. I agree that his positions seem reasonable but are we all ok with the new political precedent being set with billionaires buying elections and credibility? "Bloomberg and Steyer's spending binges start to pay off" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/10/bloomberg-steyer-2020-097326
"The top four winners of last night’s debate, according to Google searches and the number of tweets about each candidate, were Bernie Sanders, followed by Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and then Andrew Yang. Ironically, Yang wasn’t even on the debate stage" https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...st-nights-primary-debate-without-attending-it
I didn't like Warrens response to why should Rich kids get free college? She basically said that if they Billionaires paid their taxes she didn't care if they got free college. Pete was more sincere and practical in his response where she kind of brushed it off as no big deal.
I'm with Warren on this one. Free school should be free for everyone rather than a tier system, or there should be a free option for everyone if they want it. The reality is that rich people will still pay for private schools with better reputations. No one expects Harvard to be free, it's going to be state schools.
Years ago when my son went to Oregon and I was a single dad making decent money I was told because I made to0 much as his parent there was no assistance available, He was able to get a loan and he has paid it off. I don't agree that it should be free to those that have the money. It just drives the overall cost up when it doesn't have too.
I guess I don't follow your logic, how does free drive up the overall cost? Edit: also are you ok with free for poor or mid class people?
I still don't understand exactly what you are saying but I'll give it a shot anyway. Full tuition payment gives the government negotiation power. I think that cost increase is much worse with guaranteed loans to everyone, then people buy with no link to cost and the school asks what they want with no oversight. Resulting in graduates who have crippling unforgivable debt without realizing the problem until it's to late. There is also a government run school potential that would work like a high school works now.
Why can’t you incorporate both? Bottom line regardless what system is used it must be managed properly. For public schools in Oregon they are funded primarily from property tax. That property tax is proportional to the value of the property and tax schedule. Im for a progressive tax structure and Pete’s way when it come to funding education and Medicare. I respect your take very much!
Your personal opinion means dick. He’s not your guy so you’re making up fake metrics like “electability” to try and discredit. It’s complete nonsense.
I think you can have both. A public funded option and a private option. Public funded would keep the cost in check for the private, and the private would keep the standards up for the public. Arguing over who is eligible for the public option based on income is just a distraction and makes no difference in the long run. Personally I don't mind paying a reasonable amount more in taxes for usable services that make our country better and stronger, even if I don't personally use them.
Agreed. I'm for Pete in general, but I think he's wrong on this one. Make the billionaires pay taxes, the tuition to state schools that they won't attend anyway is trivial. You'll spend as much on the infrastructure of figuring out who gets charged and who doesn't as you'll collect. That said, I'm not sure I'm even for free college in the first place. That just doesn't seem like the most pressing problem we have. barfo
That's the same reason for my biggest issue with Warren and her wealth tax also. There are better ways to accomplish what she wants to do there and they will just find loopholes in reporting. Agreed it's probably not our biggest problem but it is a big problem and one that will compound over the decades. I feel like we owe it to our youth and country to make sure they have the opportunity to be successful and can accumulate wealth. I was lucky, I had a company pay for my education and the head start it gave me in life made a big difference. I bought a house and started saving for retirement early, I also can afford a few luxuries to enjoy in my life and have paid for my wife to go back to school. All because I wasn't hamstrung with student debt.
