Religion Never let an incident go to waste!

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  1. MarAzul

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    Obama calls for Common Sense Gun Control Laws.


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/obama-florida-shooting/index.html

    So does the school's Superintendent, including using emotional heart string tugs.
    ""Our children are writing to us. They're telling us, school board members, community, elected officials, now is the time for us to enact some commonsense gun laws in this country," he said to applause from those gathered."

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...perintendent-cites-calls-for-common-sense-gun

    Nobody knows what that means.

    Three threads here, in S2, on the subject and no one could or would specify and amendment that would have stopped this shooter.

    No one specified a mental health improvement that would have stopped this shooter.

    Back ground checks did not deter him.

    Calls to the FBI warning of this fellow about to go off. Did not stop him

    We have silly laws in place that make schools gun free zones, and therefore safe zones for shooters. He ignores the gun free zone law.

    An obvious answer, is to arm people in schools to protect the children. I think it is completely dysfunctional to allow these shooter gun free access to our children.

    I suspect the left, loves to use the opportunity, "calling for legislative action on gun control, saying it's "long overdue.". This includes the troll, Sly!! Taking hard direct action to protect the children would reduce, if not eliminate the opportunities.

    Some souls need to be searched here.
     
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  2. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why does no one talk about the insanely high number of guns manufactured in the US each year that ends up flooding the black market?
     
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    all you need to do is prove how manufactures are selling guns on the black market in the US, for a statement like that to be taken seriously
     
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    Because it has nothing to do with what bad people do.

    We're talking about how to stop people from doing bad things.

    1. Change their thinking.
    2. Remove them from society.

    Those are the only options available.
     
  5. SlyPokerDog

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    2014:

    9 mill guns manufactured in the US.

    420,000 exported

    3.6 mill guns imported

    Can't find a number that says total sales.

    Which is a problem, imo. I can easily find how many cars were sold, how many pizzas, just about anything. Can't find how many guns were sold.

    I can find that only 7.4% of federally licensed firearms dealers had their records inspected in 2014. That went down to 6.3% in 2015.
     
  6. MarAzul

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    Who knows? I suppose I don't because it never occurred to me.
    But since you ask, what has that to do with the school shooter? and then it follows, why do you ask?
     
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    So many debates on what legality, when I feel like it's irrelevant to a lot of tragedies. Seems like it'd be too easy to get a gun illegally considering how many we manufacture.
     
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    Perhaps it is. But this one didn't. I can't remember one school shooter that did.
     
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    And how do you know they didn't?
     
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    Well, I don't know it... It was reported this most recent fellow obtained his gun legally.
    So did the Sandy Hook shooter or it was reported.
    Since this is a hot item, I expect we would have an ear full of how this dudes manage to obtain the weapon illegally or how it fell through the cracks on background checks. Correct me if I am wrong, but I just don't remember hearing any of this.
     
  11. Chris Craig

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    Illegal black market = illegal guns = people buying illegal guns = people killing people with illegal guns \guns getting in the wrong hands = people doing bad things
     
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    Could be a false narrative for political reasons, I'm not sure. All I know is that there has to be a ton of guns getting bought illegally, just due to the sheer number manufactured and imported. They have to be going somewhere.
     
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    It's a problem with no easy fix. With how many out there now, cutting off the supply wouldn't fix much.
     
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    With this shooter, nothing. Other shootings especially gang shootings pervading our streets are all made possible by illegal guns.
     
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    I didn't say it would be easy...nothing easy about it, but action is action
     
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  16. MarAzul

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    I can help you with Boolean logic if you wish. I developed a pretty good data manipulation data manager using this method.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Hey man, I'm an English major, and that math makes sense to even me. It's simple math.
     
  18. MarAzul

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    Oh please expand. A claim like that needs it.
     
  19. Chris Craig

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    How do you suppose all of these gang members with extensive rap sheets get their guns, at the local store?
     
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    You know Marzul. You had a pretty decent post going until you decided to create a divide by saying 'the left'.
    People who have the mentality you do, don't want to fix anything. They want to be the loudest.
    Personally, I choose to not give the loudest the floor.
     
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