Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Hoopguru, Sep 2, 2023.
I was waiting for something about Bo and there it was.
Bunch of people who have never been media who are commenting on some shit they don’t know anything about.
The media aren’t fans. They’re at the game to do a job. When I was doing blazer games I would get to the arena by 430 and leave at 1030 or 11. I’m not buying food at the arena. It is just considered being a good host for the home team to provide a meal.
posts from the thread that tweet is based on:
mostly, Beaver fans were appalled about what that thread is highlighting and the impact that lack of hospitality will have on media, especially national media
Beaver fans spent year's ridiculing Oregon's efforts and focus on branding. On how Oregon paid a lot of attention to public relations and glad-handing media. Instead of ridiculing and dismissing Oregon's efforts in these areas, they should have been taking notes
Lanning when asked about scheduling Oregon St in the future...
"Yeah, I think games like this are in important and it would be great if that is something we can make happen and continue to make happen... I know everyone on our end would love to see that continue."
I'd love to see it. In fact, I hope OSU and WSU are successful in getting a PAC conference going and the Ducks are able to come back at some point.
Hard for me to wrap my head around the scenario where that happens, but if Oregon can return to the Pac10-12 while still being competitive from a TV contract standpoint, I'm all for it.
Or just move all the non-football sports back to the Pac12 and let football do their own thing.
Agreed. I don't see how it works, other than a power 5 mega conference with regional divisions, one being the PAC.
Several schools, even "elite" programs retain regular OOC home-and-home series'. Florida-FSU; Georgia-GA Tech; Clemson-South Carolina; USC-Notre Dame. I think it would be great to add a continuing UO-OSU matchup to that list. Some things are worth more than potential playoffs appearances.
And I would push back that playing Oregon St on an annual basis would have a negative impact on potential playoff appearances.
I don't agree, and the chatter about what other schools do isn't going to change my mind that Oregon continuing the annual home-and-home with OSU is a bad decision
but look at your list...you named 8 schools and every single one is in a Power-4 conference (since the PAC is dead and won't be part of a Power-5 next season). Which gets to one of my points: that being that If Florida beats FSU or USC beats Notre Dame, they get full credit for beating another Power program. And if they lose they get credit for playing the game and losing to a Power program. That is nowhere close to the same as beating a MWC team; and losing to one is something a team will be unlikely to recover from unless they run the table.
If you don't think that's true you need to read the criteria the CFP uses to determine playoff ranking. By the way, in the SOS rankings (which is one of the factors the CFP uses as a gauge) the ranking of MWC teams, out of 131 teams:
Boise State Broncos 79
San José State Spartans 87
San Diego State Aztecs 104
Utah State Aggies 109
Hawai’i Rainbow Warriors 110
UNLV Rebels 111
Colorado State Rams 114
New Mexico Lobos 117
Nevada Wolf Pack 118
Fresno State Bulldogs 119
New Mexico State Aggies 127
Air Force Falcons 129
again, out of 131 teams. There is very little playoff ranking gravity in beating one of those teams
there is almost no upside, at all, for a team in a Power conference to play an annual home-and-home with a non-Power program, only downside. And the Big-10 schedule is going to be difficult enough without having 10 of the 15 OOC games over the next 5 years be against OSU, Texas Tech, Ok. State, and Baylor
now I don't know what Oregon and OSU are talking about. If it's continuing the series indefinitely. Or games every 3 or 4 years. Or what. I do know that Boise State had agreed to 3 games with 2 being in Eugene, the 1st and 3rd. I doubt that OSU would agree to that, especially with this year's game in Eugene
How good is OSU really gonna be if they drop out of power 5? There’s no way they’re gonna have even the same level of recruits that they have now. Jonathan Smith would have to be a saint to stay if they end up in the MWC.
obviously, it's unknown how good OSU will be 2-5 years from now. They might dominate the MWC like Boise State used to do. But Boise State hasn't really been nationally relevant since the Chris Peterson days more than a decade ago. They were 12-2 in 2019 and finished ranked only 23rd. The last time Boise State was ranked in the top-10 was 2011 when they finished 12-1 and were ranked 8th. The gravity and power of media contracts caught up to Boise State. Making 4M/year off a media deal is a killer when the cut-off line for a Power Conference team is above 30M.
And the power and influence of CFP criteria has a big impact as well. The MWC routinely has by far the most anemic SOS's and by far the fewest marquee match-ups. That's a tough recruiting sell
maybe Smith will be unusual and decide to be a lifer at OSU. I'm skeptical because he's only 44 and seems pretty ambitious. I mean, he's making a bit under 5M at OSU. What would he say if UCLA offered him 6-7M/year with the exposure of coaching a Big-10 schedule? He was born and raised in the Pasadena area.
it will be interesting to follow OSU's transfer portal activity over the next half year. I think a lot of people are anticipating that OSU will be losing talent to the portal. If the losses are significant, that would probably influence Smith's decision to leave or stay. And currently, according to 247's composite rating, OSU ranks 60th in the 2024 recruiting class. They could be losing 4 starters on the OLine and 7 senior starters from the defense, with 3-4 other seniors in the 2-deep on defense. That's a lot to lose and the options for maintaining current talent level seem really limited
obviously, OSU is counting on a lot of money from the dissolution of the Pac-12 and hoping that keeps their heads above water for a few years. But those kinds of financial factors aren't going to matter to talent
I don't know if this is true or not:
this is another thing I'm not sure is actually true:
but if it is, the Power-4 conferences will be hogging even more talent and the transfer portal will be a one-way street
Damn. He's a credit to football in the state of Oregon.
rumor from the 247 Michigan St. site if that it's down to two candidates: Smith and Arizona's Jedd Fisch
again, I have no clue if it's bullshit speculation or smoke signalling a fire
probably means it's Elko
Canzano interviewed Jonathon Smith today and asked him about the rumors and his intentions. An excerpt:
“Canzano: What do you say to Oregon State fans who are nervous about losing you? "They can be confident I'm completely focused on the task at hand. (They can be) confident that we're battling, week in and week out and that has not changed. There has not been some distraction on that. I think it's known what this place means and what I've done and been around here and I think that speaks for itself." Does that mean that you have not had contact with other schools? "I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I've got an agent that's got a job. He best be finding out what is out there and people calling. That's how that works. I can tell you from his side he best be working just because I'm paying him so much. They get a percentage and I'm making him a couple million bucks. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Any coach, they're aware of what's potentially out there if their agent is doing their job. I'm not trying to dodge the question. I'm trying to be truthful."
with the widely reported news that he has had at least one interview with MSU, maybe a 2nd one, it's pretty evident he's looking around and his agent has instructions to be proactive and aggressive
there's more in the interview. I won't link anything from Canzano though
all this does not mean he'll leave OSU. But he's definitely testing the market. I think if UCLA fired Chip and offered Smith the job he'd be gone immediately. Michigan State is probably a tougher pull, but going by MSU's history, Smith would be a very good fit there
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