Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by wizenheimer, Jan 22, 2023.
I joke i joke. I always have fun with everyone i go with. Now unplug those dirty thoughts sir!!!
Half asleep I got that backwards didn't I?
We need an update on this thread, anyone willing to paste the stats of the rookies vs Sharpe so far through the year?
Yes I’m willing, but will NOT do it.
Translation, "You'd do it if you could figure out HOW to do it."
Rookie EPM Ranks (900+ mpg) - EPM (Off/Def) * Probably the most well respected public all-in-one metric across NBA front offices.
1) Walker Kessler: +2.2 (+.6 / +1.6)
2) Tari Eason: 0 (-1.4 / +1.4)
3) Jalen Williams: 0 (-.8 / +.8)
4) Keegan Murray: -.7 (0 / -.7)
5) Paolo Banchero: -.9 (-.6 / -.3)
6) AJ Griffin: -1.2 (-.8 / -.4)
7) Jalen Duren: -1.5 (-1.2 / -.3)
8) Jeremy Sochan: -1.5 (-1.3 / -.3)
9) Dyson Daniels: -2 (-4.2 / +2)
10) Ben Mathurin: -2.2 (-1.5 / -.7)
11) Jabari Smith Jr.: -2.9 (-2.1 / -.7)
12) David Roddy: - 3.3 (-3.1 / -.2)
13) Malaki Branham: -4.2 (-2.4 / -1.8)
14) Shaedon Sharpe: -4.3 (-2.5 / -1.8)
15) Jaden Ivey: -4.6 (-1.5 / -3.1)
16) Christain Braun: -5 (-3.6 / -1.4)
So one of the worst big minute rookies, but he's been trending up the last couple weeks. Was floating around -6 for a while.
Yeah, the fact is that a bunch of those guys are getting a lot more minutes and a lot more usage in those minutes than Shae... in the case of Murray and Williams it's really impressive because they are on teams that are having success and they're a big part of that success but a handful of these guys like Paolo are just the most talented guys on their teams and therefore are getting far more opportunities both to succeed and get experience than Shaedon has.
Given that all of the guys ahead of him are older and more experienced, I don't think it's surprising that Shaedon has been a bit slower to develop as a player. I have zero concern that he's not going to develop into a significant player as he gets more experience.
Ivey seems like a real bust.
Half the league whiffed on Giannis.
That wasn’t an “Olshey” thing.
Thank you for posting this. Interesting ranking for sure. However, for me, it just further shows how useless metrics can be in determining who is better. I look at that list and other than Banchero there is not one of them I would trade Sharpe for. Not that SS is definitely better than all of them, but he is certainly as good as all of them.
Metrics are pretty solid given equal opportunity.
Other than that they are just loose guide rails
Still very interesting.
Detroit fans think he’s the second coming, it’s nuts.
I think he has shown enough glimpses of stardom that I would not count him out yet. No doubt his shot has been inconsistent, but he had a pretty good February.
Value long-term we'll see, but as far as who's been better this year, I think it's a fairly accurate representation.
Big thing you got to keep in mind with these metrics though is that they are better used to compare players in similar roles. Team quality can muck these numbers up a little too, but I know EPM does as good a job as any of them trying to adjust for that.
I wonder how many people look at the stats and say the same thing about Sharpe and Portland Fans.
All I can say is Shaedon is definitely the best dunker out of ALL the rookies.
Whick rookie/s available at #7
a) is/are having a better rookie year than Shaedon?
b) has shown to have better potential than Shaedon?
Separate names with a comma.