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Natebishop3 said:
These salty fucking Magic fans are saying we’re tanking… like what the fuck are they doing? And the wiz? And the pacers? And the Rockets, Spurs, and Pistons…..
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OKC the past couple of seasons. Philadelphia for years.

Go enjoy Pablo and get off our lawn.
 
Natebishop3 said:
They’re mad because in 10 years people are going to clown on them for not drafting Shaedon.
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Yeah I mean, let’s just assume Chet is incredible. You can’t tell me Shaedon isn’t already at least 3rd best of his class already. I watched a bunch of Mathurin, JW and Ivey tape yesterday and it’s nice but it doesn’t look anything like what Shaedon is doing rn.
 
The Mavs had a legit shot at the play in going into the last 2 games. The Blazers struggling with injuries out of the All Star break gave it a go, until they were just treading water upstream. Makes the two teams situation apples and oranges. The Mavs are very unlikable with Puka, Cryee, and Billy Goat Kidd. Plus Kidd's misuse of Christian Wood's abilities with low minutes most nights as a bench player behind mediocre Powell was mind numbing. I think Wood probably wants the heck out, even though he said all the right stuff.
 
Samuel said:
Yeah I mean, let’s just assume Chet is incredible. You can’t tell me Shaedon isn’t already at least 3rd best of his class already. I watched a bunch of Mathurin, JW and Ivey tape yesterday and it’s nice but it doesn’t look anything like what Shaedon is doing rn.
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Mathurin could be nice, but Sochan and Ivey look like role players and Daniels could be a bust. Smith has looked mediocre. Murray and Banchero look like borderline All Stars. Chet is a mystery man. I think Shae has a chance to be the best player in this draft.
 
OneSport3 said:
We really are irrelevant to the NBA, aren’t we?

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Dallas had two or three guys out due to "rest".

We have claimed injuries (see our extra roster spots, etc.) so I don't think it's in the same category as what Dallas is doing.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Mathurin could be nice, but Sochan and Ivey look like role players and Daniels could be a bust. Smith has looked mediocre. Murray and Banchero look like borderline All Stars. Chet is a mystery man. I think Shae has a chance to be the best player in this draft.
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I love Murray but Shaedon has almost 200 NBA games to get to where Keegan is now.
 
OneSport3 said:
We really are irrelevant to the NBA, aren’t we?

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Adam Silver made it clear a few years ago that if teams are losing as a result of injuries or giving young guys more chances to evaluate and rebuild, it is perfectly OK. Even if some of our injuries might be suspect, we certainly qualify the latter category.

Jason Kidd just opened up a can of worms for Dallas that puts them more in the limelight for outright tanking to improve draft position.

Think we're gonna be OK.

"Over the past several seasons, discussions about so-called 'tanking' in the NBA have occurred with some frequency, both in the public discourse and within our league, and you as governors have taken steps to address the underlying incentive issues by adopting changes to our draft lottery system that will go into effect next year. Throughout this period, we have been careful to distinguish between efforts teams may make to rebuild their rosters, including through personnel changes over the course of several seasons, and circumstances in which players or coaches on the floor take steps to lose games. The former can be a legitimate strategy to construct a successful team within the confines of league rules; the latter — which we have not found and hope never to see in the NBA — has no place in our game. If we ever received evidence that players or coaches were attempting to lose or otherwise taking steps to cause any game to result otherwise than on its competitive merits, that conduct would be met with the swiftest and harshest response possible from the league office."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-mark-cuban-fined-tanking-comments/360493002/

Coincidentally, all that also came after they found Dallas tanking for Zion. They clearly aren't very tactful at this.
 
Ed O said:
Dallas had two or three guys out due to "rest".

We have claimed injuries (see our extra roster spots, etc.) so I don't think it's in the same category as what Dallas is doing.
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Four starters out to “injuries” just when it’s most convenient to get a better spot in the draft? I don’t think that’s fooling anyone.
 
BankTeller said:
I’m keeping that pick if it’s in the top 5-6 regardless. I’m not sure why there’s talks of trading it when we hit big on not trading #7 last year. There ARE guys like that this year (maybe not on Sharpe’s level) that can drastically change this franchise in a few years.

The Knicks pick to free up our 1sts + Ant and anyone outside of Dame and Sharpe are the most I’d give up for an upgrade right now.
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Yes. Do anything possible to get an All Star (or near) out of Ant and future picks. Add that to Dame, Grant, Sharpe, Nurk, and our pick, and we've got something cooking.
 
Bingo Bango said:
Four starters out to “injuries” just when it’s most convenient to get a better spot in the draft? I don’t think that’s fooling anyone.
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You think there's NO difference between (a) claiming a player is injured and submitting a request for an expanded roster to the NBA, and (b) putting "rest" as the reason two of your players aren't playing?

That's ridiculous. If the NBA wants to interview the Blazers players to see if they've actually got injured, they can do that. If they want to call the Blazers liars, they can do that.

They don't even need to do that with the Mavericks. They just chose not to play two healthy players due to "rest".

Like I said: if you don't see a difference there, then you should look harder, because it's as clear as day.
 
Ed O said:
You think there's NO difference between (a) claiming a player is injured and submitting a request for an expanded roster to the NBA, and (b) putting "rest" as the reason two of your players aren't playing?

That's ridiculous. If the NBA wants to interview the Blazers players to see if they've actually got injured, they can do that. If they want to call the Blazers liars, they can do that.

They don't even need to do that with the Mavericks. They just chose not to play two healthy players due to "rest".

Like I said: if you don't see a difference there, then you should look harder, because it's as clear as day.
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You can call it whatever you want, but everybody in the NBA knows Portland is tanking. Saying a player is “injured” is a little game that the NBA commissioner should certainly be smart enough to figure out. The Mavericks can claim their players needed “rest” as easily as Portland can claim their players are injured, but again, the NBA commissioner should be smart enough to see through both ruses.
 
Bingo Bango said:
The Mavericks can claim their players needed “rest” as easily as Portland can claim their players are injured, but again, the NBA commissioner should be smart enough to see through both ruses.
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that's not all Dallas claimed. Kidd admitted postgame that the decision to bench everyone came from his GM and Owner and was made to maximize their future moves in order to win a title.
 
Silver only cares that the Mavs are tanking because he knows they would bring much better TV ratings to the playoffs than a team like OKC
 
julius said:
I think Dallas has moved into 1st place of teams I really don't want to see get the #1 pick.
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I don’t want Dallas to get it…. But I really don’t want San Antonio to get it. Fuck that. It hasn’t been long enough. That would be like the Patriots getting another Tom Brady after only a few years. Their fans don’t deserve it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don’t want Dallas to get it…. But I really don’t want San Antonio to get it. Fuck that. It hasn’t been long enough. That would be like the Patriots getting another Tom Brady after only a few years. Their fans don’t deserve it.
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Portland is hosed, Jose.
 
illmatic99 said:
Adam Silver made it clear a few years ago that if teams are losing as a result of injuries or giving young guys more chances to evaluate and rebuild, it is perfectly OK. Even if some of our injuries might be suspect, we certainly qualify the latter category.

Jason Kidd just opened up a can of worms for Dallas that puts them more in the limelight for outright tanking to improve draft position.

Think we're gonna be OK.

"Over the past several seasons, discussions about so-called 'tanking' in the NBA have occurred with some frequency, both in the public discourse and within our league, and you as governors have taken steps to address the underlying incentive issues by adopting changes to our draft lottery system that will go into effect next year. Throughout this period, we have been careful to distinguish between efforts teams may make to rebuild their rosters, including through personnel changes over the course of several seasons, and circumstances in which players or coaches on the floor take steps to lose games. The former can be a legitimate strategy to construct a successful team within the confines of league rules; the latter — which we have not found and hope never to see in the NBA — has no place in our game. If we ever received evidence that players or coaches were attempting to lose or otherwise taking steps to cause any game to result otherwise than on its competitive merits, that conduct would be met with the swiftest and harshest response possible from the league office."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-mark-cuban-fined-tanking-comments/360493002/

Coincidentally, all that also came after they found Dallas tanking for Zion. They clearly aren't very tactful at this.
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They tanked for Luka. Cuban got suspended for telling the players it’d be better to lose.
 
illmatic99 said:
that's not all Dallas claimed. Kidd admitted postgame that the decision to bench everyone came from his GM and Owner and was made to maximize their future moves in order to win a title.
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They also pulled Luka mid game... lol
 
I wonder how the league would handle another 76ers "Trust the Process" style tank.
 
If the Pacers and Magic win these games that they are in right now that would be great. We could play Shaedon tonight and see if he can get to 40.
 
theprunetang said:
And try to send Golden State to the play in. That would be a great way to end this sad sack season.
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The fact is that with Washington well ahead of Houston both Indy and Orlando can play to win but shouldn't because if one of them win and the other loses the team that loses will have the better odds but I hope they don't give a shit because we will do whatever it takes to keep that 5th spot by ourselves. So we will have guard rails if either team loses and we can take them off if both win.
 
I’d like to see the Blazers try to beat Golden State … if Indy and Orlando win … which is looking okay at the half.
Scoreboard watching! Gotta be happy!

And in wierd news …
Mikal Bridges kept his streak alive for never missing a college or a pro game by checking in … immediately fouling … and checking out. 4 seconds. He gets a mulligan on this one as it is his 83rd game this year … and missing his 84th potential game wasn’t a miss as he was inactive, trade pending when he went to Brooklyn … so sayeth the NBA.
It all counts! Can’t make this stuff up.
 
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