The Raptors should be an example to us of how to build a better team

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  1. tester551

    tester551 Well-Known Member

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    Im fairly sure Bones agrees with you, but was just being sarcastic here.

    Several of y'all make PA out to be some micro-managing owner. I believe that is a complete mis-charicturation of his involvement.

    PA undoubtedly signed off on all deals (as probably 90% of all sports owners do). There have been several reports in the past that PA is extremely involved and wanting all his questions answered (which is good). However, I remember hearing that PA would always defer to the GM to make the call. Thats how it should be.

    The owner give his opinion & insight - but the GM makes the call.

    PA wasnt like Cuban or the Kings owner
     
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    Fixed it.
     
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    Hope it doesn't happen, but if they get swept by Warriors, will they still be an example to follow?

    Incidentally, Blazers were not a. #1 seed. They were a #3 seed who upset #2.
     
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    joeBlazers Well-Known Member

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    The Raptors actually play defense and seem to have some structure on offense with the ball in the hands of solid decision makers.
    Did you watch them swarm the train Giannis?
    Giannis ran all over the Celtics. The Raptors forced him to shoot the midrange or pass.
     
  5. BonesJones

    BonesJones We got shooters.

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    Look up their percentage on wide open shots, then get back to me.

    It seems like people are having trouble trying to grasp the context of what I'm trying to illustrate. We shouldn't be basing future decisions off of making the WCF vs. the 2nd round. Obviously it was fun and a great moment to reach the WCF, but:

    1.) We barely won the 2nd round
    2.) We had to come back from 28-down with scrubs to get the 3 seed to make the WCF

    I'm NOT saying it's flukey. I'm saying that the difference between the 2nd round and WCF is negligible in regards to building this team for the future.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Depends on what you think of the Bucks. I would argue the Bucks were the 3rd best team in the league, and the Raptors victory over them was impressive.
     
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    Hahaha
     
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    well said. This "the-devil-made-me-do-it" shit, with PA staring as the devil and Olshey as the victim, started shortly after the disastrous July 2016. That month made Olshey look like a moron, but his supporters seemed to latch on to the excuse it was Paul Allen making all the bad calls. That narrative never withstood any reasonable scrutiny but it persists to this day
     
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    This is fairly inaccurate. Many moves over the past 20ish years there were rumors of PA being a big part in them. Its not some new thing with NO.
     
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    Just for the record, I never intended to indicate that Olshey and his team weren’t on board with the Crabbe contract. I do, however, think that not getting outbid for one of his restricted free agents was something that PA was fully behind. Can you point to anytime where we didn’t match?
     
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    That's fine we can disagree.
    But imo to say Toronto has a very good chance to beat GSW is a stretch.
    No one is going to favor Toronto.

    Should KD return Toronto will struggle to find the offense to keep up with GSW.
     
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    I tried to send you a message but it said I'm not allowed to start a conversation with you, lol.

    Do you want to play in our mock off season? We just need a couple more players.
     
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  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Did I say I favored them? No.

    I think they have a very good chance. That can mean any number of different things.
     
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    But you’re saying on the other Hand Toronto is the model to follow. They barely made it out of the 2nd round too... If they get swept or heck lets give em a game, what does that really prove? Someone from the east has to make the finals.

    I guess to some extent I agree, they shouldnt use this “run” as grounds to just keep the cake in the oven... They should be open to making moves to try to get better.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Philly was a way better team than Denver.
     
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    Because 51-31 in the East is much more impressive than 54-28 in the West??
     
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    To those who say the Raptors don't have a chance ... The Raptors swept the season series with the Warriors. No, it doesn't mean they will sweep them, but it is not irrelevant either.
    When you play good defense, you always have a chance. This is something people don't seem to understand. They get out on shooters. They force turnovers. They steal the ball. They have guys who can finish at the Rim and shoot from the outside decently. They can scramble. Remember that the Bucks had some decent shooters, which they shut down. They closed out on Giannis and recovered back to their shooters. They have shot blockers. And they have been in some tough games ... And they have home court advantage.
     
  18. TorturedBlazerFan

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    No way... Philly’s got major issues, they have “talent” but most of that talent doesnt seem to fit. Embiid looks old already. Denver also had a better record, in the better conference.
     
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  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Record doesn't mean shit in the playoffs.... as proven by us against New Orleans.
     
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    You mean when we literally had one more win, and played in the same conference...
     

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