Trading back

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  1. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Little known fact: UCD and I will be on a flight to Hawaii that takes off as the draft starts. If United Wi-Fi cuts out, which is 50/50 when heading to Hawaii, we’ll land a couple hours after the draft and chaos is over, without any information as to what has transpired.

    At least it’ll only be 6pm local the following Friday when free agency begins.
     
  2. HailBlazers

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    Don't worry, Woj will spoil all the picks by 4pm
     
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    I hope so!
     
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    Ehh, If Murray is sitting there at #7, I’d consider trading down to someone who wants Murray and make sure I can grab Daniels/Shapre/Mathurin/Sochan in that order.
    Grant is already that good player that doesn’t have star upside. I’d rather start Nas and hope he becomes that. I think Nas has more star potential than Murray. But if a team like the Spurs want him and will trade us #9, and a 2023 1st from any Dejounte Murray deal for #7, I’d do it.
     
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  5. illmatic99

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    i want to see if we can find a pick for next yr as well, especially if we're gonna send our own to Chicago.
     
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    If we're not worried about fit because we're not there yet then I project a few of the players that should be available will be better than Murray... undoubtedly if Murray is there he'll have the highest floor but if he's there with Sharpe, Daniels or Sochan and we're not only looking at immediate impact I think all three of those guys are better players than Murray... one of them we could probably trade back and still get, along with potentially another player or future draft pick. But really this is the inexact science of the draft and prospect evaluation.

    I agree that we should take BPA but is that the best player today or the best player over the lifetime of their contract? If you see two players with a negligible difference in their level of play or potential level of play, at that point do you worry about projected fit? It's tricky stuff and it's why people, way better at it than me get it wrong all of the time. Sometimes when you don't worry about fit you never even have the chance to know just how good a player is or could be because the fit doesn't allow them to show what they're capable of or grow into their potential. Murray obviously wouldn't be a terrible choice and he might even be the right choice but given those other guys, he definitely isn't the sure fire best choice, that's a rare thing in the draft.
     
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    you're overthinking this.
     
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    My order is Sharpe > Daniels > Sochan

    I would consider trading Daniels for Sochan and another piece like Dort.
     
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    I do that but the draft isn't simple. The term BPA means different things to different people.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I feel like Murray doesn’t get enough credit. People said the same thing about Dame. Nobody thought he’d be this good, even after his rookie year. The guy has so out performed everyone’s expectations except his own. I see a lot of Dame in Keegan.
     
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    I think the biggest question is can he create and be efficient offensively on the next level? Can he be good defensively?

    How is he different than a Morris twin? I could always be wrong but I prefer the upside of Sharpe and the skill set of Daniels more. Especially now that we have Grant.
     
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    Is Hayward and #13 for Bledsoe, Winslow, Keon enough? Combined, they make a little over $26m. I really don’t want to trade down because I want a guy who can become a star like Sharpe, but also want a still high upside guy that can contribute right away. I think if you can take on Hayward’s contract for another lotto pick, you do it.

    Between Hayward, Nas, Sochan, any of the three can end up starting next to Grant. Sharpe may make the leap by year three.

    Dame/Ant/Sochan/Grant/Nurkic with Hart/Sharpe/Nas/Hayward/(Jalen Smith) off the bench. You could even start Hayward at first if you wanted, but I just think Sochan or Little end up being the starter and Hayward becomes a sixth man. Hayward may likely play well and net us another 1st if we want to trade his expiring deal next summer.

    Would anyone be on board with this?
     
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    I've always been a fan of trading back.

    Assuming Smith, Chet, Banchero, Ivey, Murray are all gone - I trade down with Spurs (if possible).

    Say Sharpe goes #6.
    Trade #7 (Daniels) for #9 + #25
    #8 is Matherin

    So we sit at #9 with the choice of Sochan, Duren, Dieng, Eason. Depending upon how closely we have these four rated, we might be able to go down to #12 & pick up a '23 pick.

    At 25, I'd take Procida. Depending upon how the draft is unfolding - I might looks to trade down with Orlando to 32 & 35.

    The other 2 second rounders, I'd try and trade for future picks.
     
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    Duren AND Procida?

    Yes please!!
     
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    I want nothing to do with Randle

    STOMP
     
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