Politics Trump to end DACA

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

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    Not speaking about the legal aspect. Speaking about the oft repeated misinformation that illegals don't get welfare. If the American born kids are in foster homes headed by Americans then no, illegals wouldn't get welfare.

    If a three year old American kid living in America with his illegal immigrant parents get welfare then the parents get welfare.

    If you want proof of this give my wife 1 million dollars. Then say you didn't give ME the Million dollars. I'll let you say it until you're blue in the face.
     
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    The law says the don't get welfare.

    Both state and feds.

    I'm not sure even those born here get welfare until they're adults. I'm sure you can pretend that school lunch is welfare to pad a bogus number.
     
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    Should be relatively easy to prove. 3 year olds don't file for themselves.
     
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    Maybe those who claim undocumented immigrants ARE getting welfare should prove it.

    So far, the numbers look suspect.
     
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    http://www.fairus.org/news/illegal-immigration-a-113-billion-a-year-drain-on-u-s-taxpayers

    Since we don't have any government agency reporting the numbers who are we supposed to believe.

    This article states that half of the money is for education. If you don't consider payment to illegals in education or food or health care welfare what would you call it?

    It certainly isn't owed or earned just for walking into our country.

    I thought Arpaio costing AZ taxpayers 70 million was ridiculous. It is just a drop in the bucket.
     
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    I would call education education. It's not welfare. It is earned, by right as citizen or via the taxes that undocumented immigrants actually pay (sales tax for one).

    Welfare is a check to help pay living expenses.

    "Since we don't have any government agency reporting the numbers, we'll make some up!"
     
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    Fuck you Drumpf!!

    And FUCK everyone that supports this.

    Ban me if you want...
     
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    These sources used government numbers. Someone else feel free to interpret them differently.

    Education isn't just education. Native born students that speak English don't require as much money as a kid who just got here and speaks something else.
     
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    You are one -------- sucker!

    It is so much better to have a President that follows the Constitution, enforces the laws on the books rather than making up his own.
    Think before you post.
     
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    You say a lot of dumb shit.

    Was Reagan following the constitution when he gave them amnesty in the first place? Yeah...

    Do they pay more in taxes than the ones you try to get out of? Yeah...
     
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    Misused, not used.

    Are they counting the taxes these people pay?

    I didn't think so.

    Answered my own question.
     
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    So, since corporations need slave labor, we should let the children of slave laborists:

    a. Not get any healthcare therefore making our population sicker.

    b. Not get any education so they don't speak English like

    c. Not give a shit about the 12 BILLION in taxes they pay every year.

    d. Deport them after they've labored.

    Shame on this fuckin' country...
     
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    >>> Yes he did, he signed a bill by Congress into law. But there is no "them" applicable in today's Dreamers.

    >>> So what?

    >>> It is a 1st amendment right you know. But why did you bring it up?
     
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    It's ironic that most of this country used to BE Mexico and MFs like you have the nerve to tell them to get out of a country y'all raped and pillaged to "settle"...
     
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    Oregon was never part of Mexico.
    My parents immigrated to this country in the last century legally, Ellis Island and all. Never pillaging anything.

    Do you ever think before you speak? Or just grab your ass and throw what every gets on your hand?
     
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    Politifact claims this is false because nobody knows.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/

    So, when people say 113 billion people will just say "Not True" when really nobody knows.

    I did see a protest in Vegas this weekend. The fast food workers want 15 bucks an hour. In a completely unrelated coincidence they were protesting DACA at the same time.

    Then a woman with 6 morbidly obese kids complained that she can't support them on 8.25 an hour.
     
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    You sure do hit on the root of the problem but don't seem to care. The employers are a major problem. If you can't even imagine how that could hurt us all while the one percent gets richer I don't know what to tell you.

    If they came here to get the land back that would be one thing. They do say that quite openly. They really come here for the jobs and the money all that raping and pillaging made possible.

    I'd even be for letting them all stay if we really put an end to it happening again. Letting them stay without stopping it in the future just encourages more to come. With a high tech automated future how does that seem like a good idea.

    They're gonna lose their jobs to robots because that's even cheaper than slave labor they get now.
     

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