Politics What Does Joe Biden Stand For?

[riverman]

Then you fall into my OP:

If you're planning to vote for Joe Biden simply because he's not Donald Trump, then, OK. So be it.

Whatever floats your boat...but I'm not falling into anybody's OP....I'm paddling upstream and voting....FUCK YOU DONALD TRUMP.....! It's cathartic....try it

 

[ABM]

Whatever floats your boat...but I'm not falling into anybody's OP....I'm paddling upstream and voting....FUCK YOU DONALD TRUMP.....! It's cathartic....try it

You go with that, then.

 

[riverman]

You go with that, then.

In a heartbeat but I'm curious...you are absolutely ignoring the most in depth answer to the OP from UncleCliffy'sDaddy….is it because you don't like or agree with it or you just want to ignore it as having value?....I agree with his post..I didn't think the Evil Knievel comparison had that much depth

 

[riverman]

worth repeating

I’d expect Biden to try and provide another “healthcare for all” plan. I’d expect him to roll back the tax reductions for the rich. I’d expect him to oversee this country with dignity and professionalism. I’d expect him to rebuild our relationships with our allies and restore our respect in the eyes of the world. I’d expect him to look out for the more unfortunate among us by rolling back policies put in place since 2016. I’d expect Biden to restore rules and regulations that protect our air and water quality. In other words, I’d expect pretty much a complete reversal of all that has been inflicted upon us since the beginning of 2016. Got you shuddering now, don’t I...........??

 

[ABM]

In a heartbeat but I'm curious...you are absolutely ignoring the most in depth answer to the OP from UncleCliffy'sDaddy….is it because you don't like or agree with it or you just want to ignore it as having value?....I agree with his post..I didn't think the Evil Knievel comparison had that much depth

Here are the operative words: "I'd expect Biden to..."

Expect or received?

 

[magnifier661]

I don't care what Joe's network of influence is but I trust him way more than Bozo the apprentice...…..I know what the alternative is representing and it's unacceptable...I wish there were two better choices but there never are....it is what it is in the words Jerry Seinfeld hates....2020 is a purely damage control election..it's broke, we need to fix it

So a vote against then? It’s still a vote

 

[riverman]

Here are the operative words: "I'd expect Biden to..."

Expect or received?

you lost me here.....opinions often start with what you expect from a candidate......received? that is not applicable but word play is fun

 

[riverman]

So a vote against then? It’s still a vote

bring it on....I'm ready to vote...

 

[riverman]

So a vote against then? It’s still a vote

trust is trust

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Here are the operative words: "I'd expect Biden to..."

Expect or received?

Read the last sentence in your own OP. You asked what we “expected”. Or was your OP just another troll?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not seeing much substance in this thread other then Sly pointing us to a lame website. Minstrel's comments notwithstanding.

I pointed you to the site that directly addresses your question.

 

[Lanny]

Pretty sure everyone in this forum knows Biden has nothing to offer. The idea on the left is that he’s a better alternative than what we have now. American politics is like a slow race. How shitty of a candidate can you run while still winning the race. It’s sort of a paradox, this idea that you can have a corruptible Manchurian candidate that also appears human and to have people’s best interests in mind. Obama fit that bill extremely well, he was a great actor. Trump, Biden and most the other clowns that have run the last few years...not so good. They kind of all wear their bullshit on their sleeve.

I'm pretty sure you know little about what a lot of us in here think about Biden.

 

[Lanny]

Read the last sentence in your own OP. You asked what we “expected”. Or was your OP just another troll?

ABM does not troll.

 

[Lanny]

Joe was my last choice from the field opposing Trump but what Joe brings is the ability to organize a team...he's not ever going to impress people as an orator but he has skills Trump can't even sniff.....he is too old....I would have liked to see female candidates get a shot at the job. Old white guys is what we have and one is completely unacceptable for too many reasons to list...in my view if you're not over Trump by now then you don't value the plain truth

He was my fourth choice and that was because of his electability.

 

[ABM]

you lost me here.....opinions often start with what you expect from a candidate......received? that is not applicable but word play is fun

Sorry, no word play intended. What I meant was, Do Joe's stated stances/policies align with your expectations? Which ones in particular?

 

[ABM]

I pointed you to the site that directly addresses your question.

Yes, I did go to that site when you posted it. I pulled of the first section on COVID-19. Rather vanilla if you asked me:

Together, We Are Resilient and Strong

In the midst of a growing public health crisis the country is looking for leadership, stability, and trusted experience — and that’s Vice President Joe Biden. Biden knows how to mount an effective crisis response and elevate the voices of scientists, public health experts, and first responders because he has done it before.

We need a decisive public health response to curb the spread of this disease and provide treatment to those in need — as well as a decisive economic response that delivers real relief to American workers, families, and small businesses, and protects the economy as a whole.

Joe’s been honest with the American people about what is necessary to beat this challenge, and knows that we are up to this task and that we will meet this challenge together as one America.

 

[jonnyboy]

I'm pretty sure you know little about what a lot of us in here think about Biden.

Oh weird. I thought a years worth of political threads had given me some idea. Guess everyone is just lying.

 

[Lanny]

Oh weird. I thought a years worth of political threads had given me some idea. Guess everyone is just lying.

Or I guess you can't tell the obvious.

 

[jonnyboy]

Or I guess you can't tell the obvious.

Ok Lanny.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Not at all. Read my OP. I mean, really, what is Biden bringing to to table? Post that.

You werent here but oh, 6 months ago? a Year ago? I started a thread, "sell me on a better plan". I asked for democratic viewpoints to sell me on. I asked to have it not be about Trump.

There were a couple legit posts, but basically most just said i'm an idiot if I cant tell the difference.

It is one of the most ridiculous threads ever... There were people saying they gave me legit responses, like " If you cant tell how bad Trump is and you need this clarified, then you are the issue..."

You aren't going to get much different answers here either. Just treated like an idiot because you cant tell that Biden is a better person(opinion) than Trump.

 

[ABM]

You werent here but oh, 6 months ago? a Year ago? I started a thread, "sell me on a better plan". I asked for democratic viewpoints to sell me on. I asked to have it not be about Trump.

There were a couple legit posts, but basically most just said i'm an idiot if I cant tell the difference.

It is one of the most ridiculous threads ever... There were people saying they gave me legit responses, like " If you cant tell how bad Trump is and you need this clarified, then you are the issue..."

You aren't going to get much different answers here either. Just treated like an idiot because you cant tell that Biden is a better person(opinion) than Trump.

Just wow.

Yeah, I missed that one. Didn't mean to override that nonsense.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Just wow.

Yeah, I missed that one. Didn't mean to override that nonsense.

No sorries. Just warning ya. LOL

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/sell-me-on-a-better-plan.353523/

It gets good from post #23 on.

 

[riverman]

You werent here but oh, 6 months ago? a Year ago? I started a thread, "sell me on a better plan". I asked for democratic viewpoints to sell me on. I asked to have it not be about Trump.

There were a couple legit posts, but basically most just said i'm an idiot if I cant tell the difference.

It is one of the most ridiculous threads ever... There were people saying they gave me legit responses, like " If you cant tell how bad Trump is and you need this clarified, then you are the issue..."

You aren't going to get much different answers here either. Just treated like an idiot because you cant tell that Biden is a better person(opinion) than Trump.

using "better plan" as your topic yet not including Trump in the conversation is like saying lets compare apples and oranges but not talk about oranges.....I remember that thread and people answered your question with good reasons to vote for Joe....mostly diplomatic reasons about shoring up our respect with our former allies again and national health care but the problem is that I find a troll element to threads like that that basically don't want to hear reasons to vote for Joe but justify why not to....my answer then was what I think any citizen should do.....read his website and do the research....my vote is clearly agenda driven this time around...I try to be very transparent about that....I've heard why you're disturbed about Joe....and why you give Trump reasonable doubt...in the end..we disagree...but let's make up shit saying we're calling each other idiots..I said UCD wrote a detailed post about why he'd vote for Joe and got ZERO feedback from ABM about it. Why? ABM didn't want to consider it a valid point of view would be my guess which I find to be a double standard...if you guys would address the topic without expecting answers that fit your needs, conversations might blossom into actual eye openers...it might start with "yeah, we all know our government is fucked up" and build from there. My reason for voting for Joe is to get the incompetent liar out of the world stage and fix our diplomatic standing in the world first...then address health care and infrastructure. Put a stop to global military expansion

 

[Orion Bailey]

using "better plan" as your topic yet not including Trump in the conversation is like saying lets compare apples and oranges but not talk about oranges.....I remember that thread and people answered your question with good reasons to vote for Joe....mostly diplomatic reasons about shoring up our respect with our former allies again and national health care but the problem is that I find a troll element to threads like that that basically don't want to hear reasons to vote for Joe but justify why not to....my answer then was what I think any citizen should do.....read his website and do the research....my vote is clearly agenda driven this time around...I try to be very transparent about that....I've heard why you're disturbed about Joe....and why you give Trump reasonable doubt...in the end..we disagree...but let's make up shit saying we're calling each other idiots..I said UCD wrote a detailed post about why he'd vote for Joe and got ZERO feedback from ABM about it. Why? ABM didn't want to consider it a valid point of view would be my guess which I find to be a double standard...if you guys would address the topic without expecting answers that fit your needs, conversations might blossom into actual eye openers

Um River, go read the thread again starting with #23. You are telling me that's a good reason? This is a rhetorical question, FYI.......

You remember somewhat correctly and I said I had a couple legit responses. But you don't need to remember anything., I linked it for you.

And yes, I'm not even gonna have this discussion with you because you are admittedly biased.

If you are unable to have a conversation about the Democratic platform for a better economy and explain it without mentioning Trump, that's your issue. Many people can have that convo. Ive had it with many people, just not many in here......

So I'm not buying this. " cant discuss the democratic ideology without bringing up Trump."

That's as much BS as you claim Trump to be. 100% cop-out.

 

[Orion Bailey]

using "better plan" as your topic yet not including Trump in the conversation is like saying lets compare apples and oranges but not talk about oranges.....I remember that thread and people answered your question with good reasons to vote for Joe....mostly diplomatic reasons about shoring up our respect with our former allies again and national health care but the problem is that I find a troll element to threads like that that basically don't want to hear reasons to vote for Joe but justify why not to....my answer then was what I think any citizen should do.....read his website and do the research....my vote is clearly agenda driven this time around...I try to be very transparent about that....I've heard why you're disturbed about Joe....and why you give Trump reasonable doubt...in the end..we disagree...but let's make up shit saying we're calling each other idiots..I said UCD wrote a detailed post about why he'd vote for Joe and got ZERO feedback from ABM about it. Why? ABM didn't want to consider it a valid point of view would be my guess which I find to be a double standard...if you guys would address the topic without expecting answers that fit your needs, conversations might blossom into actual eye openers...it might start with "yeah, we all know our government is fucked up" and build from there. My reason for voting for Joe is to get the incompetent liar out of the world stage and fix our diplomatic standing in the world first...then address health care and infrastructure. Put a stop to global military expansion

Are you Fing kidding me? I made the topic of the thread ... If YOU would have addressed the topic no one else. YOU. LOL

Thats as rich as ... wow River.......


Maybe if you gave legit answers instead of only biased ones then maybe it WOULD blossom into a good convo.


This is too funny.....

I have to go now...

Cause it wont remain funny.

 

[riverman]

And yes, I'm not even gonna have this discussion with you because you are admittedly biased.

your replying to my post says otherwise...but you're welcome to disrespect my political motivations...and ignore how Trump lost all respect from me...call it bias...I call it common sense

 

[riverman]

Are you Fing kidding me? I made the topic of the thread ... If YOU would have addressed the topic no one else. YOU. LOL

Thats as rich as ... wow River.......


Maybe if you gave legit answers instead of only biased hateful ones and learned the ability of objectivity then maybe it WOULD blossom into a good convo.


This is too funny.....

I have to go now...

Cause it wont remain funny.

you like to judge forum members....I like to judge Trump....my answers are legit...so is your choice to disrespect them...ignore me if you don't want to engage me here...simple...choices OB you have obvious bias against my value system concerning politics...and that's fine. I don't see a Trump vote as an intelligent choice..I wes addressing this thread and ABM about the UCD post ….not your archives

 

[Orion Bailey]

you like to judge forum members....I like to judge Trump....my answers are legit...so is your choice to disrespect them...ignore me if you don't want to engage me here...simple...choices OB you have obvious bias against my value system concerning politics...and that's fine. I don't see a Trump vote as an intelligent choice..I wes addressing this thread and ABM about the UCD post ….not you

LOL. Your biasedness blinds you..... I have no disrespect to your politics. Just the inability to separate your biased opinions from an objective question. You cant even address the specifics of what I mentioned, instead speak in vague statements...

Lets not forget... YOU quoted me...... Then tell me to ignore you...

Cant make this double standard of yours up River.

Sorry. You are wrong on this. Go read the thread starting at #23 and tell me its a legit response. Anyhow have fun with your daily echo chamber.... and inability to actually have a conversation on a topic without involving Trump.

Its kinda obsessive, and a bit scary honestly.

 

[riverman]

LOL. Your biasedness blinds you..... I have no disrespect to your politics. Just the inability to separate your biased opinions from an objective question. You cant even address the specifics of what I mentioned, instead speak in vague statements...

Lets not forget... YOU quoted me...... Then tell me to ignore you...

Cant make this double standard of yours up River.

Sorry. You are wrong on this. Go read the thread starting at #23 and tell me its a legit response. Anyhow have fun with your daily echo chamber.... and inability to actually have a conversation on a topic without involving Trump.

Its kinda obsessive, and a bit scary honestly.

wooooooooo...you said you were going to not engage my scary biased ass so ....I say....go ahead..being pragmatic means you haven't made a stand...being idealistic means you have...I have

 

[Orion Bailey]

See @ABM ?

LOL