Politics 'Ransom' paid to Iran?

[blue32]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/03/lawmakers-ransom-to-iran-put-americans-at-risk.html

"Republican lawmakers are fuming over a bombshell report overnight that the U.S. government airlifted the equivalent of $400 million to Iran this past January – as four detained Americans were released by Tehran – and say the transaction has put more Americans at risk of being taken hostage."

 

[Denny Crane]

No big deal. It wasn't a republican administration.

 

[blue32]

No big deal. It wasn't a republican administration.

Ha, I knew you'd like this story.

 

[e_blazer]

Damn, I need to take someone hostage!

If we took up a collection around here, we could probably come up with a few hundred bucks to pay the Iranians to take you.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I dont even know what to say to this. Wow.

 

[riverman]

Sly would probably be valued more by Kim Jung Un...he likes dogs with a side dish of kimchi

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

CNN IS ON THE CASE.

 

[blue32]

CNN IS ON THE CASE.

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I noticed the samet hing.. I usually go through the morning gamut of news sites, and it is really funny watching the "Clinton News Network" do their agenda. Rather sad actually.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I noticed the samet hing.. I usually go through the morning gamut of news sites, and it is really funny watching the "Clinton News Network" do their agenda. Rather sad actually.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm not seeing the outrage on this. It was part of the Iran nuke deal. Should the US not have asked for the Americans being detained back? Seems like the deal was if you do this, this and this, we will start to give some of your money back. Iran was following the terms of the deal.

Air lifting crates of cash?

The outrage is that it was paying cash for hostages. It encourages Iran (or others) to take more hostages to get paid ransom.

 

[Denny Crane]

At least they didn't drop bombs on Iran this time.

 

[riverman]

Is Kim Chi the North Korean Kim Kardashian?

yeah but she has no booty

 

[riverman]

At least they didn't drop bombs on Iran this time.

There's still time

 

[Denny Crane]

It was Iran's money. Giving Iran back their money was always going to be part of the nuke deal. So the US shouldn't have asked for our citizens back as part of that same deal?

Write em a check. Don't make the payment in exchange for hostages.

"But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible."

 

[e_blazer]

It's much ado (on Fox) about nothing (on CNN).

As far as dropping bombs on Iran goes, I'd rather go with dropping boobs. I nominate Hillary and The Donald to go in the first wave.

 

[riverman]

CNN IS ON THE CASE.

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I told you folks...he's tanking really hard..Bill O'Reilly's tv job is his ultimate goal. Trump doesn't want to work at all...he just wants a soapbox that's not so slippery

 

[riverman]

Write em a check. Don't make the payment in exchange for hostages.

"But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible."

I think we know very little about this negotiation and the hostages were just part of a bigger deal...to think, we could've used that money to build another plane that doesn't work and scrap it after failed trials..the crap we waste money on baffles the mind. I'll bet the hostages are happy at least

 

[Denny Crane]

I think we know very little about this negotiation and the hostages were just part of a bigger deal...to think, we could've used that money to build another plane that doesn't work and scrap it after failed trials..the crap we waste money on baffles the mind. I'll bet the hostages are happy at least

"But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible."

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think we know very little about this negotiation and the hostages were just part of a bigger deal...to think, we could've used that money to build another plane that doesn't work and scrap it after failed trials..the crap we waste money on baffles the mind. I'll bet the hostages are happy at least

I read something last night that really made sense. It seems we are finalizing a deal to give Israel 5 billion a year. Americans want to know why we just give billions away all over the world.

Someone mentioned that it is a way to keep our currency the main currency used around the world. It makes sense, we don't send the 5 billion worth in gold. We don't have it.

 

[riverman]

"But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible."

So did the companies who got hundreds of millions to build failed prototypes...at least the hostages were freed...the prototypes are sitting in a graveyard somewhere. I think this was also a big part of finally getting Iran to stop it's weapons program...another bonus. Entering a war with Iraq might actually be more expensive than buying them off.

 

[Nikolokolus]

As tawdry and distasteful as it appears, ransoming hostages is as old a tradition in statecraft as you're ever going to find.

As for the particulars of this deal it seems like there's a bit more going on than just a straight hostage for cash swap, so I don't really know what to say? . . . Hopefully we got more out of the deal than just the hostages I guess.

 

[Denny Crane]

So did the companies who got hundreds of millions to build failed prototypes...at least the hostages were freed...the prototypes are sitting in a graveyard somewhere. I think this was also a big part of finally getting Iran to stop it's weapons program...another bonus. Entering a war with Iraq might actually be more expensive than buying them off.

Or we gave them $1.8B to spend on their nuke program after they break the deal. Like N. Korea did.

That's not relevant to the topic, though. We didn't just release their frozen assets, we put $400M in crates and delivered cash to the hostage takers.

 

[riverman]

Or we gave them $1.8B to spend on their nuke program after they break the deal. Like N. Korea did.

That's not relevant to the topic, though. We didn't just release their frozen assets, we put $400M in crates and delivered cash to the hostage takers.

Point is...we don't know what we got in the deal or why they did it the way they did. I don't believe it was all ransom for 4 hostages.

 

[Denny Crane]

Point is...we don't know what we got in the deal or why they did it the way they did. I don't believe it was all ransom for 4 hostages.

"But U.S. officials also acknowledge that Iranian negotiators on the prisoner exchange said they wanted the cash to show they had gained something tangible."

We know this.

 

[riverman]

Often that sort of sabre rattling is covering up things we don't know and saving face would be to make it look like they gained more than we did...but arms and oil and access to pipelines or assurance the Russians don't control pipelines might be in play ...it's what we don't know that I'm alluding to. Maybe you're right Denny and they spent 100 mil apiece on these guys...maybe these guys have intel worth billions..who knows?

 

[crandc]

Not ransom, not secret, not new.

In 1979 after Iranians took over the US embassy and made the staff hostages, the US government in retaliation froze all Iranian assets in US banks. The money has sat there since. Part of the deal whereby Iran agreed to dismantle its nuclear program was "unfreezing" the assets. It was Iranian money, not US money. The article in the treaty was announced months ago. It was reported in the NY Times and on CNN and the SF Chronicle among others.

But with the Trump campaign imploding, a fake scandal is just what is needed to deflect attention.

 

[barfo]

The interesting part of the story is what happened after the money arrived in Iran. It was all sent to the Clinton Foundation, who sent it directly to ISIS in Libya to fund attacks on American soil.

I'm telling you, you just can't make this stuff up.

barfo

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I find it amusing that conservatives in the US are using Iranian government propaganda to attack Obama.

Death to Obama's America! I can't wait til Trump nukes'em.

 

[Denny Crane]

Often that sort of sabre rattling is covering up things we don't know and saving face would be to make it look like they gained more than we did...but arms and oil and access to pipelines or assurance the Russians don't control pipelines might be in play ...it's what we don't know that I'm alluding to. Maybe you're right Denny and they spent 100 mil apiece on these guys...maybe these guys have intel worth billions..who knows?

U.S. officials acknowledged $400M for the hostages. That's exactly what we know. Paid $400M for hostages.

No amount of twisted logic or imagined circumstances changes this.

 

[Denny Crane]

This is a big story on CNN all day.