Serious Question For Trump Supporters

[THE HCP]

I don't tread over here very much as most of you know. My wife and I would not be considered super political people. I served my country and we both vote, but that's the extent. I honestly paid no attention to this election......it was more of a choose the lesser evil of the two situation. I know there are a hundred separate threads about Trump, but I just had a question for you experts in the word of politics.

That said, we both loved Obama and how he handled himself during his tenure. He really connected with a whole new audience if you will. To me, politicians have always felt like my grandparents. Old and stuffy...... shit this guy had a weekly run of hoops at the white house. Regularly mingled with musicians, actors and athletes. Seemed like a regular guy. I wa proud to call him our leader.

Now that may be the exact reason why some DON'T like him, wouldn't really understand that, but everybody is allowed to have their own opinion.

My question is, for you that are actually HAPPY that Trump won the election, how do you explain or accept or say it's OK when it comes to all the bullshit he has said?

I have a daughter and she is 11. And she asked me the other night, "Why is trump our president, even though he had grabbed women in their private parts?" WOW! How do you answer this? How sad that our kids will remember a person that has said what he has said about people openly as our leader. All the hate, degrading things he has said make any type of policies he plans to implement completely moot if you ask me. I don't care how many jobs he creates, aren't you honestly worried he'll say or do something so completely out of line or offensive at a dinner with dignitaries from other countries that he will hurt us as a country?

As much as I fuck around on here, I'm a husband and a parent first and I have raised my kids to do nothing but show compassion and respect to others NO MATTER WHAT. And it saddens me that the man who now holds the most powerful position in our country, even the world has been allowed to treat other humans beings this way.

I hope I haven't offended any Trump supporters by asking these questions, just was wanting serious answers from people who support and believe that a man like this is what's best for you and your family. Curious how you would have answered the question my daughter asked me.

Hope this doesn't become another thread where you guys just blast each other or me. Just want to know how you can be happy with your choice as you tuck your kids into bed.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why the fuck are there so many Trump threads? Holy shit. I don't even go into this sub anymore because of this shit.

Trump is a sleaze. I'm guessing most of us didn't vote for him. Why do we need constant reminders that he's a sleaze?

 

[MarAzul]

Curious how you would have answered the question my daughter asked me.

How did she hear this rubbish?

 

[MarAzul]

I served my country

If you don't mind my asking, how did you serve?

I was at the VA clinic Monday giving the stuff needed for a lab work up. Sitting across from me while we waited was another Vet with Corpsman hat on.
I said, how are you today Corps Man? He chuckled and said, 11 more days. We both chuckled.

Now if you don't get it, I may not be able to help.

 

[Cippy91]

People like to think every president is perfect. Well, why did bush to the shit he did, why did obama sign off on drones which killed thousands of innocents, why did he go back on his policy on whistleblowers? why did hillary delete all those emails, take money from the haiti fund, speeches paid for by big banks, etc. Why should anybody expect trump to be good either? it's all the same shit, different story. Just because Obama spoke well everybody thought he was perfect. A lot more to it. I suggest people do their research.

 

[MarAzul]

Just because Obama spoke well

everybody thought he was perfect.

Two different thoughts in one sentence. I don't think he speaks well. He speaks as though he has been well trained in public speaking, a bit halting and excessive pauses but not too bad.

Then I can tell you, it is very far from everybody that thinks he is perfect.

 

[Rhal]

Why the fuck are there so many Trump threads? Holy shit. I don't even go into this sub anymore because of this shit.

Trump is a sleaze. I'm guessing most of us didn't vote for him. Why do we need constant reminders that he's a sleaze?

I mostly ignore the off topic threads as well but not because of all the trump threads but when you go in and read them and its the same several people attacking each other over and then complaining that the other side is stupid.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I stopped reading at "I don't care how many jobs he creates"

This is the type of asinine thinking that makes me furious.


It should be...
1. Jobs
2. Jobs
3. Jobs
4. Jobs
5. Jobs
6-1000 Jobs

He can grab my junk if he creates jobs for this country. I've done better than most during the Obama administration and I'll still trade the American Merkel we almost got for the tweet obsessed rich guy who loves to fondle women.

Maybe you're insulated from this because you're around rich guys all the time. That ain't normal homeslice.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't tread over here very much as most of you know. My wife and I would not be considered super political people. I served my country and we both vote, but that's the extent. I honestly paid no attention to this election......it was more of a choose the lesser evil of the two situation. I know there are a hundred separate threads about Trump, but I just had a question for you experts in the word of politics.

That said, we both loved Obama and how he handled himself during his tenure. He really connected with a whole new audience if you will. To me, politicians have always felt like my grandparents. Old and stuffy...... shit this guy had a weekly run of hoops at the white house. Regularly mingled with musicians, actors and athletes. Seemed like a regular guy. I wa proud to call him our leader.

Now that may be the exact reason why some DON'T like him, wouldn't really understand that, but everybody is allowed to have their own opinion.

My question is, for you that are actually HAPPY that Trump won the election, how do you explain or accept or say it's OK when it comes to all the bullshit he has said?

I have a daughter and she is 11. And she asked me the other night, "Why is trump our president, even though he had grabbed women in their private parts?" WOW! How do you answer this? How sad that our kids will remember a person that has said what he has said about people openly as our leader. All the hate, degrading things he has said make any type of policies he plans to implement completely moot if you ask me. I don't care how many jobs he creates, aren't you honestly worried he'll say or do something so completely out of line or offensive at a dinner with dignitaries from other countries that he will hurt us as a country?

As much as I fuck around on here, I'm a husband and a parent first and I have raised my kids to do nothing but show compassion and respect to others NO MATTER WHAT. And it saddens me that the man who now holds the most powerful position in our country, even the world has been allowed to treat other humans beings this way.

I hope I haven't offended any Trump supporters by asking these questions, just was wanting serious answers from people who support and believe that a man like this is what's best for you and your family. Curious how you would have answered the question my daughter asked me.

Hope this doesn't become another thread where you guys just blast each other or me. Just want to know how you can be happy with your choice as you tuck your kids into bed.

Went and finished the original post. I've been with my wife for 16 years in a couple of weeks and I made a conscious decision not to bring kids into this fucked up world. Do you even have a clue how many billions of people inhabit this planet?

 

[Cippy91]

Two different thoughts in one sentence. I don't think he speaks well. He speaks as though he has been well trained in public speaking, a bit halting and excessive pauses but not too bad.

Then I can tell you, it is very far from everybody that thinks he is perfect.

Not everybody but I don't know it seems a lot of people think the obamas are the gold standard. A lot of bad stuff that happens under every president. Doesn't mean they are bad people butthere haven't been any that I wanted to represent my country and I expect the trend to continue

 

[Cippy91]

Went and finished the original post. I've been with my wife for 16 years in a couple of weeks and I made a conscious decision not to bring kids into this fucked up world. Do you even have a clue how many billions of people inhabit this planet?

it's bad. Over population to be honest. Look at China. It's insane.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

it's bad. Over population to be honest. Look at China. It's insane.

The air, holy shit. People can't fucking breathe there without hepa filters or some shit. They can't all afford them even tough they probably make them all.

 

[MarAzul]

I expect the trend to continue

I am look forward to some very good years. Good time to be an American. Join me, you are welcome to share in the prospects.

 

[Cippy91]

I am look forward to some very good years. Good time to be an American. Join me, you are welcome to share in the prospects.

Well I am hoping that the younger people as well as others start sharing the same views as you do because from what I see society is filled with hate and anger over a lot of nothing. People will find the smallest things to get angry about when really it's meaningless

 

[Cippy91]

The air, holy shit. People can't fucking breathe there without hepa filters or some shit. They can't all afford them even tough they probably make them all.

Another thing that's pretty sad over there. Males are more valued than females in that society. Since there is a limit of children you can have over there, stories of baby daughters getting killed and one not, it's so insane over there.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Another thing that's pretty sad over there. Males are more valued than females in that society. Since there is a limit of children you can have over there, stories of baby daughters getting killed and one not, it's so insane over there.

Feel bad for the guys if you have to be the best looking guy with the most money if you want a girlfriend.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I absolutely despised Obama. To me, he was everything that represented elitism. Way too busy worried about being popular, and not about being an objective leader and running this country. He snubbed his nose at everyone who wasn't connected to Hollywood or a big-city Democrat, and he spoke to the people with a condescending air and arrogance unrivaled by any other president in the modern times.

Trump isn't perfect, and you'll never hear me say so. There are many things that I disagree with him about, as I explained in the "Biden Medal Of Freedom" thread on page 2.

But if he pisses off elitist Liberals, then that makes me happy. There's only so many years that you can scorn average Americans and middle America before they vote for Trump out of spite. Which was probably 60% of the reason I voted for him.

In as far as grabbing pussy, I give a fuck all what he says in a private conversation. He's a guy, and every guy on this planet has said something at some point about a woman; just like every woman talks to her girl friends at some point about the hot guy at the party/work/pool/beach/club/whatever.

Hell, I even told my father in private what a nice set of tits the waitress has at our 9er Club. He responded "did you see the ass on her?! Jesus!" And he's been married for 36 years.

Saying something between friends or family in private is far different than conducting yourself in public. When he reaches out and grabs a woman by the pussy on stage somewhere, or during a press conference...then you can get back to me about it.

Until then, I'm hardly going to lose sleep about it, and neither should you.

 

[THE HCP]

I stopped reading at "I don't care how many jobs he creates"

This is the type of asinine thinking that makes me furious.


It should be...
1. Jobs
2. Jobs
3. Jobs
4. Jobs
5. Jobs
6-1000 Jobs

He can grab my junk if he creates jobs for this country. I've done better than most during the Obama administration and I'll still trade the American Merkel we almost got for the tweet obsessed rich guy who loves to fondle women.

Maybe you're insulated from this because you're around rich guys all the time. That ain't normal homeslice.

You don't have a daughter do you? I'm the complete opposite, you can delete and hide as many emails as you like, but you can't grab my wife or daughter in the pussy.

 

[THE HCP]

If you don't mind my asking, how did you serve?

I was at the VA clinic Monday giving the stuff needed for a lab work up. Sitting across from me while we waited was another Vet with Corpsman hat on.
I said, how are you today Corps Man? He chuckled and said, 11 more days. We both chuckled.

Now if you don't get it, I may not be able to help.

I was a Military Policeman in the Army for 6 years.

 

[THE HCP]

I think one way I look at it, I would let Barack Obama speak for me, would you guys let Donald Trump speak for you? I believe I have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Barack Obama, do you have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Donald Trump? I believe Barack Obama could sit in our living room with my daughter my wife and my mom and I can leave the room and feel comfortable, curious if you guys feel the same way about Donald Trump?

 

[MarAzul]

I think one way I look at it, I would let Barack Obama speak for me, would you guys let Donald Trump speak for you? I believe I have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Barack Obama, do you have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Donald Trump? I believe Barack Obama could sit in our living room with my daughter my wife and my mom and I can leave the room and feel comfortable, curious if you guys feel the same way about Donald Trump?

Well the way I see it. Mr. Trump will be speaking for you and me for a few years to come. He won't be sitting in my living room with me or the ladies in my family.
I voted for him and expect he will serve us all very well. I hope you see it soon and feel comfortable like I do. I have no fear.

 

[Cippy91]

It's not the presidents job to sit in your living room and make you feel comfortable. I didn't vote but I also don't think the world is at it's end because Trump is elected. Some people truly believe that. It's ridiculous. The over dramatic views of the guy is what drives me crazy

 

[MickZagger]

Pay no attention to the scorned Republicans who post on this forum. They're jaded. Obama has had a great run as President and will probably go down as one of the greats. Despite having the cards stacked against him with the house majority going to the right and guys like Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan trying to block his every move. The fact that they're trying to repeal Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act is a leading example of Republican's trying to change a great thing because it wasn't their idea, oh and it straight up has Obama's name wrapped around it. They have no ideas of what to replace it with. Talk to low educated Republican's like I have and they say Obamacare is an "absolute disaster". I question why and they say its because they shouldn't be forced to pay for medical insurance if they don't want to. Okay, you non-union warehouse worker with a 20 year tenure, tell me who's going to flip the bill when your unhealthy, cigarette smoking, fast food eating ass starts to gradually decline in health. You have a stroke right now and you'll gladly accept the benefits of Obamacare. This train of thought is what got us into this mess of a future President. These are real people I have interacted with on a daily basis with this line of thinking, not just one.

Obama bombed and used drones a little too liberally for some peoples tastes. They're probably right. But those on the right also thought he would be soft on foreign affairs.
Contrary to what many of these Republican blowhards in these threads want you to believe, and what Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity tells them, Obama has been a solid job creator. The types of jobs Republican's want to create are the ones that are low paying in a day of age where that ain't gonna cut it to pay bills and raise a family.

The middle class is what strengthens an economy. Country's with either rich or poor are disastrous. If we want to get back to that we need start manufacturing in America again and leaning on the backbone of the middle class: UNIONS.

Trump is a President who doesn't care about the average American like his voters want to think. He's a rich guy, born with a silver spoon who cares about protecting the rich, corporations and looking out for his best interests when it comes to his businesses. Hell, a handful of years ago he was donating money to the Clinton campaign.

 

[MickZagger]

Honestly all this election cycle has proven to me, is that the average American is stupid and lacks common sense. I wasn't a Hillary fan either. I dislike Hillary a lot in fact. But she makes so much more sense than Trump.

It hasn't hit them yet, it most certainly will, but the Trump voters are going to be kicked while they're down in a couple years if the shit he wants to get through passes.

Whenever he lies, they act like he was joking when he made stupid statements like build a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it, oh and he's going to roundup all the muslims to evaluate whether they are terrorists or whatever, right and who's going to pay for that foolish idea.

DERP

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Tell your daughter she exists because slypokerdog grabbed her mom in the private parts.

You dont like a guy cause of things he's said? Wow. And i thought you had thick skin.

Obama hung out with famous musicians and shit. Just like regular people? Jesus dude.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Tell your daughter she exists because slypokerdog grabbed her mom in the private parts.

You dont like a guy cause of things he's said? Wow. And i thought you had thick skin.

Obama hung out with famous musicians and shit. Just like regular people? Jesus dude.

Bingo. He had about as much in common with regular people as Bill Gates does with poverty.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Bingo. He had about as much in common with regular people as Bill Gates does with poverty.

And all this bullshit about the affordable care act. You can call it the greatest single act in all man kind history for all i give a shit. Shove your double think up your ass, it's unconstitutional. The government forces you to buy a product or they fine you. Thats as unconstitutional as it gets. Holy shit the fact this made it through the supreme court baffles my god damn mind.

Liberals dont even realize the road theyve paved for future morons. What if trump wants everyone to buy from a company he owns? Just pass a bill! The affordable ivanka blow up doll act. Buy one or pay a yearly fine until you comply. Unconstitutional? Nope, we already proved it's not when we forced you to buy insurance and you didnt care.

 

[MickZagger]

Bingo. He had about as much in common with regular people as Bill Gates does with poverty.

He grew up a normal life like you and I. He wasn't given a million dollar loan from his father. He went to Harvard on his own merit.

 

[MickZagger]

And all this bullshit about the affordable care act. You can call it the greatest single act in all man kind history for all i give a shit. Shove your double think up your ass, it's unconstitutional. The government forces you to buy a product or they fine you. Thats as unconstitutional as it gets. Holy shit the fact this made it through the supreme court baffles my god damn mind.

Liberals dont even realize the road theyve paved for future morons. What if trump wants everyone to buy from a company he owns? Just pass a bill! The affordable ivanka blow up doll act. Buy one or pay a yearly fine until you comply. Unconstitutional? Nope, we already proved it's not when we forced you to buy insurance and you didnt care.

...and the government forces you to pay taxes to pay for shit you don't agree with..

 

[Jade Falcon]

I believe I have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Barack Obama

So you're an elitist asshole who values the opinion of Cher and Lady GaGa over the struggles of those "racist homophobic" working class families in Nebraska or Arkansas?

would you guys let Donald Trump speak for you?

Obama called me a "bitter clinger" and buttered it up with Hillary's "Deplorable" comment.

Trump called me an "American".

I'd say he's doing alright so far.

do you have a lot of the same beliefs and opinions as Donald Trump?

That it's okay to be white, that immigrants need to come here legally, that we need better border security, that we need to re-establish diplomacy with Moscow, that it's okay to have a gun for self-defense, that party politics is out of control in Washington, that Liberals need to grow a spine and fuck PC and safe spaces....

Yeah, I share a lot of those same beliefs.

I believe Barack Obama could sit in our living room with my daughter my wife and my mom and I can leave the room and feel comfortable, curious if you guys feel the same way about Donald Trump?

Of course I do. When he actually attacks someone, instead of this made-up fantasy of him being some uncontrollable rapist, then we'll address it appropriately. But I have a feeling that you're going to be waiting a long time for him to do that.