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Yeah, I'm hoping.

Option A: Bradley Beal -- He exudes high basketball IQ and intangibles. In a few years he could be that James Harden level SG. Ray Allen-like shooting mechanics. Though, his 3PT% didn't reflect that while at Florida.

Option B: MKG -- Described as having that "it" factor and plays with a killer instinct. A player who would thrive in an uptempo system and would instantly be your best perimeter defender.

Option C: Andre Drummond -- True center size, 3-4 years away. Very raw. Oh yeah, he's really raw.
 
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I like Beal a lot. But, there's no way a team isn't taking MKG #2.
 
NBADraft.net has Beal going #7 to GSW.

Just sayin'.
 
if a player falls to us at six it will be drummond or T-robb. I am not on the beal band wagon and will be insanely pissed if we trade the 6 and 11 for the two.
My mind might change after workouts but right now id take him at six (because id take bpa at six) but wouldn't move much to trade down for him.

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Rhal said:
if a player falls to us at six it will be drummond or T-robb. I am not on the beal band wagon and will be insanely pissed if we trade the 6 and 11 for the two.
My mind might change after workouts but right now id take him at six (because id take bpa at six) but wouldn't move much to trade down for him.

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My feelings exactly.
 
Rhal said:
if a player falls to us at six it will be drummond or T-robb. I am not on the beal band wagon and will be insanely pissed if we trade the 6 and 11 for the two.
My mind might change after workouts but right now id take him at six (because id take bpa at six) but wouldn't move much to trade down for him.

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Yep.

At two, none of the two through eight blow my skirt up. For all the hype about how strong this draft is supposed to be, I just dont see it. I keep reading how flawed all these guys are. Oh, and when thetop tow or three guy is labaled as a "project", tell me again this bs fairy tale that this is a strong draft...

fk it stay with 6 and 11, draft for the BPA, and realize none of these guys are ready to start for a good team, moreless the Blazers.
 
Robinson.

Beal has done nothing to warrant being a top 5 pick, let alone number 2. Especially considering how small he is said to be and how poor his 3pt shooting numbers are. I have a feeling he will be exposed as just another undersized 2 guard when he starts working out against the likes of Lamb, Ross, etc.
 
e_blazer said:
NBADraft.net has Beal going #7 to GSW.

Just sayin'.
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I remember at one point NBADraft.net had pavel podkolzin as #3 overall in their mock draft as well.
 
SecretAgentMan said:
Robinson.

Beal has done nothing to warrant being a top 5 pick, let alone number 2. Especially considering how small he is said to be and how poor his 3pt shooting numbers are. I have a feeling he will be exposed as just another undersized 2 guard when he starts working out against the likes of Lamb, Ross, etc.
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I think a lot will depend on how he measures out. Maybe you could play him at the five the same way Atlanta plays (6'8.75") Al Horford.
 
SecretAgentMan said:
Beal has done nothing to warrant being a top 5 pick, let alone number 2. Especially considering how small he is said to be and how poor his 3pt shooting numbers are. I have a feeling he will be exposed as just another undersized 2 guard when he starts working out against the likes of Lamb, Ross, etc.
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I don't get it either.

I'm open to being wrong about him, but as of right now he just doesn't excite me. If you're going to be undersized you better have elite athleticism (like Eric Gordon). Beal isn't at that level.

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There was no doubt about Gordon's abilities and athleticism.
 
The #2 IMO in this draft is not worth the 6 and 11, unless thru workouts someone really dominates and stand out, otherwise fuk no
 
I think there is a bit of a drop off between MKG and some of the players likely to be there at #6 (Lillard, Barnes, etc.)

PG: Dragic*
SG: Batum
SF: MKG
PF: Aldridge
C: Freeland*

This is a core I can get excited about -- depending on the new coach of course.
 
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I wish / hope the Blazers decide they want two players and go after them with everything they got to get 'em. If they decide they want Drummond and Beal they need to do everything in their power to make it happen. I see Beal going 3-5 and Drummond going 4-7, so I don't find it impossible for the Blazers to use their picks, players (like E. Williams, Babbit, and even Matthews if we get Beal) and Allen's deep pockets (cash considerations) to get what they want.

PG - Dragic/Lowry
SG - Beal
SF - Batum
PF - Aldridge
C - Drummond
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
I think there is a bit of a drop off between MKG and some of the players likely to be there at #6 (Lillard, Barnes, etc.)

PG: Dragic*
SG: Batum
SF: MKG
PF: Aldridge
C: Freeland*

This is a core I can get excited about -- depending on the new coach of course.
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Neither Batum nor MKG are good are creating offense unless in the open floor.. That lineup would stall so badly in the half court.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
I think a lot will depend on how he measures out. Maybe you could play him at the five the same way Atlanta plays (6'8.75") Al Horford.
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The way the NBA is these days, almost any PF can play center for very extended periods of time. Especially a physically strong, great rebounder like Robinson. The Horford comparison is a good one.
 
I think he's closer to Josh Smith than Horford. Nic/TRob/LA is a sick front line on both ends.
 
Physically, hes very much like Josh Smith, who has no trouble at PF. Horford is probably about 260 lbs.
 
I don't have a problem with trading up to the #2, mainly to take Kidd-Gilchrist. There might be a few other players worth taking that could fall to the Blazers at #6, but in terms of risk/reward - what are the Blazers risking in giving up the #11 pick, if the #2 pick is going to be substantially better than the #6?

I have to admit, my reasoning is somewhat colored by my pessimism toward the Blazers and their ability to properly evaluate talent (too many blown high draft picks in the last 8-10 years). For that reason, I'd rather take the surer bet on one player - the #2 pick - than roll the dice twice on two lesser guaranteed talents (especially the #11...).

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with keeping the #6 and #11 picks - especially if the Blazers have better-than-ever intelligence that they've got two really good prospects who are both realistically obtainable at both those spots.

At #2, you don't have to worry about whether or not you're getting the player you want. You'll get him (so long as it's not Davis, and New Orleans ain't giving that guy up).
 
I don't know about trading up to #2 just to get who we want. I'd expect we'd draft the same guy who would've been available at #6 anyways. Hell last year Nolan Smith was ranked in the second round by virtually everybody but we found a way to take him ahead of Kenneth Farried, Marshon Brooks, Norris Cole.

Does anyone else believe we'd be better off just using our picks ourselves and following Chad Ford's rankings? I download an ESPN cheat sheet for fantasy football drafts because I'm smart enough to know those experts are better at ranking and projecting players then me.
 
SecretAgentMan said:
Neither Batum nor MKG are good are creating offense unless in the open floor.. That lineup would stall so badly in the half court.
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MKG is one of the best wing/post passers in college, and has a pretty decent ability to know where/how to cut and move without the ball. If you're saying he can't square up a guy and blow past him with two dribbles, then I agree. That's not what I call "creating offense", though.
 
FWIW the Warriors want a veteran SF and have the #7 pick on the table: Iggy/Batum are high on their list.
 
I'd love to get Batum on the Dubs but is it possible to do an S&T at the draft? I would think Batum wants to play the market.
 
Run BJM said:
I'd love to get Batum on the Dubs but is it possible to do an S&T at the draft? I would think Batum wants to play the market.
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Nope, we can't even trade him at the draft since his contract is up after this season. We can't even agree to terms with him signing a contract and you guys drafting the player we would want.
 
Yeah it seems difficult logistically, though I have read a few times that hes on the Warriors' list of SFs.

I don't actually see him leaving Portland though, unless another team goes completely nuts with a contract.
 
The problem with moving up to anything but #1 is that so many guys are interchangable.

Beal seems nice, but so do Lamb and Ross

Drummond also seems nice, but so do Jones3 and maybe Sullinger after workouts

MKG seems nice, but so do Barnes and Lillard
 
I agree mm. I findthis amusing, that the suggestion is to trade up to 2 to get one of three guys. So..shouldn't we just trade to four, which would likely be cheaper? Or keep both picks.
 
RR7 said:
I agree mm. I findthis amusing, that the suggestion is to trade up to 2 to get one of three guys. So..shouldn't we just trade to four, which would likely be cheaper? Or keep both picks.
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I mean if one of them absolutely separates himself from the others in workouts, then absolutely......Which might be what the OP meant
 
Mediocre Man said:
The problem with moving up to anything but #1 is that so many guys are interchangable.

Beal seems nice, but so do Lamb and Ross

Drummond also seems nice, but so do Jones3 and maybe Sullinger after workouts

MKG seems nice, but so do Barnes and Lillard
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Yup. The 2-12 guys seem kind of like they're all lumped in the same tier. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the Blazers trade back out of 6 and get a later lottery pick and a future first or even a good rotation quality player thrown in. The team has too many holes to fill to push their chips in and try to target one specific guy at the top of the order when it doesn't appear there's much difference between that guy and some of the others that come later.

If draft picks are like lottery tickets I want as many shots as I can get and not rely on an insistence that the combination of the numbers from my birthday and phone number are sure winners.
 
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