2012 Mock Draft (Blazers): Pick #6

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Who would the Blazers take at number 6?

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The thinking here is to decide who the Blazers would pick at the currently-polled spot. Pick based on the current roster, even if it's unrealistic that the team could move up without making changes. If the guy you'd prefer isn't listed, vote for "other" and comment on who you'd pick. Ideally I'll change the options, although I don't anticipate too many "others" winning.

I plan on having each pick up for a day or two. Ideally, we'll end up with the community's "top 11" list, in order of preference, just in time for the draft on June 28.

Previous picks:

1: Anthony Davis
2: Thomas Robinson
3: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Andre Drummond
5. Bradley Beal
 
I voted "other" because I thin kit just as likely Drummond is available at 6 as is Barnes
 
Blazinaway said:
I voted "other" because I thin kit just as likely Drummond is available at 6 as is Barnes
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You might be right, but in this "mock universe" he was already chosen (at #4).

Ed O.
 
BPA: Harrison Barnes
Upside: Dion Waiters

The rest of the list IMO are more candidates for the #11 pick.
 
I chose Barnes. Great athleticism, he had some all time elite numbers at the combine. Good size for the wing positions. More versatile to constructing a roster then MKG because he can shoot the ball, so we don't require the guards on the floor to be great shooters. Has a chance to be the best player in this draft, which I don't see from the other choices. Lillard or Sullinger could be great picks at 11 but not at #6.
 
Henson, Lamb and Sullinger I wouldn't take at 21. I don't get the love for Waiters...not saying he's a scrub, but I'm not a fan yet. Lillard fits a need, and from the last two weeks seems to have catapulted himself up into the Tier Two level. Barnes is a guy I'm thinking is 80% chance of absolute beast and 20% chance of "OK SF."

I wouldn't pooh-pooh either, but I think that if Lillard really is all about embracing the team-first passing stuff and not the one-on-five stuff I think "Combo guards" pull he'd be the choice. We can get an "upside" SF or SG later, if we'd like.
 
Barns is batum with a worse shot. Lillard is the wat to go.


I actually like barns, but just one spot later.
 
You take BPA. So even though Lillard may have been the guy you targeted with the pick. You don't let Barnes slip by. With that said, if you still covet Lillard. Take your 11th pick, your second rounders, cash and move up. If it takes the 11the and Elliot Williams to move up to 7th. Maybe you do that if you are sure about Lillard.
 
GOD said:
Barns is batum with a worse shot. Lillard is the wat to go.


I actually like barns, but just one spot later.
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Why the comparison to one of the greatest perimeter players to ever play that position in Glen Rice then?
 
GOD said:
Barns is batum with a worse shot. Lillard is the wat to go.


I actually like barns, but just one spot later.
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Huh?

Barnes' strength right now is his mid-range game.

Batum has no mid-range game at all.
 
RedHotRollin said:
Why the comparison to one of the greatest perimeter players to ever play that position in Glen Rice then?
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Similar frames and a similar looking shot, but the shooting stats stop there.
Rice college
FG .569
FT .797
3pt .480

Barns
FG .440
FT .723
3pt .358


I think barns is going to be good, but nothing special. In a normal draft, getting him at 6 would be great, but I think there are better prospects out there in this deep draft.
 
I think Barnes is a sleeper in this draft. He is still improving, and I think he is the least risky pick here. It's close for me, though... Lillard looks like the higher cieling pick, IMO. I went Barnes, but it is marginal.
 
Barnes, without a doubt....

I think he will be a better pro than college player...and that mid range game will do him wonders in the NBA....
 
Blaze01 said:
Barnes, without a doubt....

I think he will be a better pro than college player...and that mid range game will do him wonders in the NBA....
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So a guy who was a disappointment in college you expect to be better in the NBA, but a guy who excelled in college you expect to suck.. Okie dokie
 
I think the Blazers sit in a good spot,because even though I choose Lillard, I think Barns, Lamb and Henson are also good selections that I expect to be at least decent in the NBA. For me, just stay away from Sullinger and Waiters at #6, I don't care for either of them in the NBA.
 
Lillard is an old (for a draft pick) shoot-first PG that played at a lower level of competition.

I can't think of any of those that have turned out well in the NBA.

Maybe Joe Dumars, but he was an exceptional player (and an exception) and he was bigger than Lillard. Am I missing someone/someone more recent?

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
Lillard is an old (for a draft pick) shoot-first PG that played at a lower level of competition.

I can't think of any of those that have turned out well in the NBA.

Maybe Joe Dumars, but he was an exceptional player (and an exception) and he was bigger than Lillard. Am I missing someone/someone more recent?

Ed O.
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I agree. This Lillard at #6 hype is beyond annoying.

Faried went to a school just as small but he had two things going for him:

*Rebounding usually translates to the NBA and he was the greatest rebounder in NCAA history
*Dominated big school programs

The very few times Lillard played outside the Big Sky conference he struggled.
 
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Yes, because unlike rebounding, three point shooting and drawing lots of fouls do not translate well to the NBA.
 
Reep said:
Yes, because unlike rebounding, three point shooting and drawing lots of fouls do not translate well to the NBA.
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It's a whole different ball game with an NBA defense on you.

Jerryd Bayless forte' at Arizona was drawing fouls (7.4 FTA/per) and shot nearly 41% from three in much, MUCH tougher conference.

People talk about Drummond being a huge risk, and he is, but Lillard is just as big of a risk.
 
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I voted Lillard but wasn't happy about it ... blech.
 
Ed O said:
Lillard is an old (for a draft pick) shoot-first PG that played at a lower level of competition.

I can't think of any of those that have turned out well in the NBA.

Maybe Joe Dumars, but he was an exceptional player (and an exception) and he was bigger than Lillard. Am I missing someone/someone more recent?

Ed O.
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In four seasons at Stevens Point, Terry Porter averaged 13.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 3.8 assists per game, and shot 58.9 percent from the floor.

But I agree Lillard looks like a shoot first combo guard.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
So a guy who was a disappointment in college you expect to be better in the NBA, but a guy who excelled in college you expect to suck.. Okie dokie
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lol, one guy played for UNC the other for Weber State? What has Weber State ever done with Lillard leading them? Yeah, I thought so....

Barnes gets a bad rap b\c he was a HIGHLY heralded recruit coming out of HS, so people expected him to dominate in college and playing at UNC that just doesn't happen...He put up very good numbers, has outstanding athleticism and is what? 2 years? younger than your man crush, Lillard...

Yeah, I don't even think it is a close call...and don't discount his mid range game that is a rare commodity in the NBA there days...He is going to be a good player...the question is whether he will be great and I like his chances\ceiling a hell of a lot more than Lillard's....Most scoring guards in college are unable to transition into effective PG in the NBA...and if Lillard is unable to do that, then congratulations you just added your THIRD undersized shooting guard.....
 
The scary thing is our scouts could very well rank him as the BPA.

Scary to think you could be taking a Jeff Teague (ceiling) at #6.

Stupid stupid STUPID.
 
Look if Lillard turns out ot be an all star PG then fine, but man history doesn't look good for undersized scroing guards trying to transition into NBA caliber PG...I mean his assist\to ratio is not very good, heck Marquis Teague as a freshman has a better assist\to ration than Lillard did as a junor, and he is what 2? 3? years younger? and someone pointed out that Weber State was a perimeter oriented team, lot of jump shots and that Lillard assist totals were inflated by that....

If they reach for Lillard at #6 and by doing that, let a MKG, Beal, Barnes or Drummond drop past them, then unles Lillard is an All Star or top 1/2 of the NBA PG they will have failed in the draft...
 
Blaze01 said:
If they reach for Lillard at #6 and by doing that, let a MKG, Beal, Barnes or Drummond drop past them, ...
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listen drama queen.... You really think THIS will happen?
 
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