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Holy crap. Watching the Warrior’s #41 pick kill the Blazers tonight makes me realize how silly it is to think that Zach Collins is ever going to be anything more than a journeyman player in the NBA.

In only his seventh NBA game, Paschall has already shown more athleticism, scoring, rebounding and poise than Collins ever has in two-plus seasons. If players like Paschall can be had in the second round, it makes you wonder why we thought so much of Collins that we traded up to get him at the #10 spot.
 
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The next Draymond
 
Binx said:
Holy crap. Watching the Warrior’s #41 pick kill the Blazers tonight makes me realize how silly it is to think that Zach Collins is ever going to be anything more than a journeyman player in the NBA.

In only his seventh NBA game, Paschall has already shown more athleticism, scoring, and poise than Collins ever has in two-plus seasons. If players like Paschall can be had in the second round, it makes you wonder why we thought so much of Collins that we traded up to get him at the #10 spot.
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There's your answer. He should be fired along with Stotts. He's the most overrated GM in the league.
 
Stevenson said:
And can't we admit finally that we drafted the wrong Collins? John Collins is averaging 17 points ands 9 Rebs for Atlanta. Stud. 19th pick in the draft.
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I'm not sure about that

but in the world of perfect hindsight, Portland came out of that draft with Zach and Swanigan; they could have come out with John Collins; Kyle Kuzma, and Derrick White.
 
Zach has been overrated for a long time. Shit Skal offensively might be already better than Zach. He does have nice defense tho.
 
BlazerBeav said:
And Collins playing probably shuts down the power forward that you just posted about....
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So why hasn’t Collins EVER had a night like the one Paschall had last nigh? He’s had over two years to show us that ability and he’s never done it.
 
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It’s just crazy. We’ve been grooming Collins for two years, and telling ourselves we just have to be patient and let him mature, and then this second-round pick no one has ever heard of just erupts and plays like an all-star. I’m starting to think that players can either play or they can’t. The good players are going to show you they belong in the NBA right from the start.
 
Mario Hezonja put up a better three game stat run as he ended his NYC stint than Zach Collins has ever done. Doesn't mean Mario or Paschall are necessarily better than Zach.

Zach did have the highest +/- on the team.

I think what Paschall's game against us really reinforces how well and truly fucked we are in guarding big 6'6 to 6'9 guys. Even when Zach is healthy (which is starting to look like many months from now) we are going to get worked. Hood and Bazemore just don't have the size and strength to handle them. Hezonja has all the physical tools, but he's just not a very good basketball player.

If this is what a second rounder does to us, just imagine Giannis, Kawhi, George, LeBron, Butler....
 
mook said:
Mario Hezonja put up a better three game stat run as he ended his NYC stint than Zach Collins has ever done. Doesn't mean Mario or Paschall are necessarily better than Zach.

Zach did have the highest +/- on the team.

I think what Paschall's game against us really reinforces how well and truly fucked we are in guarding big 6'6 to 6'9 guys. Even when Zach is healthy (which is starting to look like many months from now) we are going to get worked. Hood and Bazemore just don't have the size and strength to handle them. Hezonja has all the physical tools, but he's just not a very good basketball player.

If this is what a second rounder does to us, just imagine Giannis, Kawhi, George, LeBron, Butler....
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I just imagined it and threw up a bit in my mouth.
 
Zach is already very good defensively, which is what this team needs more than scoring. He just needed to be more consistent with his shoot.

The blazers made a bunch of borderline NBA players look like stars last night.
 
I will say this however, I have been completely against trading Zach but watching Dame and CJ and knowing how small most championship windows are if we can get the right 3rd “star” to pair with them and a healthy Nurk I would trade him and anyone else on the roster besides the fore mentioned 3.
 
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Binx said:
It’s just crazy. We’ve been grooming Collins for two years, and telling ourselves we just have to be patient and let him mature, and then this second-round pick no one has ever heard of just erupts and plays like an all-star. I’m starting to think that players can either play or they can’t. The good players are going to show you they belong in the NBA right from the start.
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John Collins been showing it too. Zach Collins was the wrong Collins to pick
 
LayneStaley said:
I will say this however, I have been completely against trading Zach but watching Dame and CJ and knowing how small most championship windows are if we can get the right 3rd “star” to pair with them and a healthy Nurk I would trade him and anyone else on the roster besides the fore mentioned 3.
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So you would trade Zach and keep CJ?
 
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