Trade Ben Simmons poll

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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

  1. CJ + RoCo for Simmons and scrubs

    10.6%
  2. CJ for Simmons

    63.4%
  3. It depends on our new coach

    3.5%
  4. I'm not trading for that bum!

    22.5%
  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Billups wasn't bullish on Simmons before the draft. He felt he was the best player the first year Simmons played, which was his second year but didn't think he should qualify for ROY. Thought that the Sixers should have been thinking about trading Simmons last off season and they were. Maybe the point was trying to be made that Chauncey isn't too high on Simmons but that's not necessarily what comes out of the three videos. To me despite him not loving Ben too much out of college, the videos seem to suggest that Ben has impressed Chauncey at times since being in the league.
     
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  2. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    They lost in the ECF to the eventual champs in an insane game 7 Kawhi multi-bounce buzzer beater a few seasons ago (edit: it was the Semis, but they took the champs to 7 games)? They also were the #1 seed just last season. Compare to us lucking our way into the WCF via key injuries only to get monkey hammered by the Warriors.
     
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  3. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    The California rumors have been repeatedly debunked and sourced to a Warriors' sports pundit at the height of Warriors-Sixers trade talks. It's false I'd love for us all to move on from this particular falsehood.
     
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    that was the semi's when they lost to Toronto

    but your overall point is fine. Since the 76ers made it back to the playoffs in 2018, their playoff record is 20-19. In the same period, Portland's playoff record is 11-20; which coincidentally is half of their 22-40 record in the Stolshey era. Any Blazer fan bragging about a .354 playoff winning percentage over an 8 years period should go stand in the corner wearing a pointy hat
     
  5. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

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    The FTFY banter has been going on for years.
     
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    Idog1976 Best not bring it weak.

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    oh really? My bad. I swore that was the ECF. The Sixers were the #1 seed last year so as you said, the point remains, but I concede I got that one wrong.
     
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    Not sure if this is relevant to Simmons but:
    How has the talent level progressed in the NBA? Rick Carlisle: The game has evolved to where the skill of shooting is so decisively important. If you can’t shoot, it’s very hard to be a high-level player in today’s game. The next phase of NBA basketball is going to be the centers shooting 3’s and driving the ball and making plays. Guys like [Kristaps] Porzingis are already doing it. Guys like Anthony Davis are already doing it. We’ve got [Domantas] Sabonis, who is a playmaking big, who’s working on his long-range shooting. That opens up so many possibilities for any player in this league.
     
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    Hoopguru spent money on booze broads boats wasted rest

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    CJ+2 young players+2 FRPs+ a pick swap seems an awfully high price for Beal.
     
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    This is the trade in question

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: G Bradley Beal
    Washington Wizards Receive: G CJ McCollum, G Anfernee Simons, F Nasir Little, 2022 First-Round Pick, 2023 First-Round Pick Swap, 2024 First-Round Pick

    I would not do this. I don't like Beal's fit with Dame and Norm any more than I like CJ's... Beal is just better at what CJ does. We need a forward not another guard... especially if we were giving up CJ, Ant, Nas, 2 firsts and a swap. (just a side note... we don't have a 2022 first round pick).
     
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    He said shooting and playmaking. Ben is a 6'11 dude averaging 8 assists a game for his career and is an elite playmaker
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Beal is overrated as a mother fucker. He's not that much better than CJ, while being more injury prone.
     
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    where do you find the mother fucker stats?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Lucking our way? OKC and Denver were both fully healthy. OKC was 4-0 vs us and Denver had HCA. No luck about it.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    IDog likes to forget the Blazers were without Beast Mode Nurk. He does that ALL the time. Then he will put his favorite "rolling eyes" picture with his rebuttal. There was no luck involved, just Dame being Dame, and some nice role player contributions.
     

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