STELLAR TANKING JOB, JOE!

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  1. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    I think Joe actually has us on an optimal path. Unfortunately, that path leads to mediocrity. I stopped watching, too.

    Had Scoot been a little more efficient on O, had fewer TOs while keeping the assists up, and not be injured, it would have been an intriguing season. Alas, with Sharpe injured as well, it was not. We lost a game by 60 fucking points.
     
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  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Here are the numbers:

    Jerami Grant:
    37th biggest contract in the league.
    49th in AAV

    Ayton:
    49th in value
    44th in AAV

    Simons:
    66th in value
    72nd in AAV

    Those don't seem like albatross contracts to me.
     
  3. C_note

    C_note Active Member

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    He's not gonna respond. Just likes to complain and make wild statements without backing them up.
     
  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    That would be like somebody accidentally stumbling upon THIS place and “READING” a post by the Uber Driver……then going somewhere and claiming that you “READ” that so in so is doing such and such.

    He “HEARD”….. give me a break. When you claim you “HEARD” something one should probably include that it came from somebody who has no clue.
     
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  5. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I’ve lost track - was this year 3 of tanking?
     
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  6. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I would say YES, year 3.
     
  7. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    I wonder when Joe will be ready for some big game hunting? He couldn’t possibly keep up with Danny.

     
  8. wizenheimer

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    kind of like "I heard from HCP..."?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Hey there’s a reason I don’t share stuff on here FAMS!
     
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  10. Ed O

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    I don't think extending Dame and trading for Jerami Grant was part of a tank job. Dame signed the ectension in July of 2022 and we'd acquired Grant the month before.

    So.... I think this was arguably the first year of tanking, but even then re-signing Grant and Thybulle and not trading Brogdon aren't the moves of a tanking team.

    It's all about definitions, I suppose, but I don't think we've really started tanking properly at all, which makes our record even more pathetic.
     
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    We've been using the beginning months of each year to give honest effort and get real evaluations of how the roster fits and performs.
    Once the deadline passes and no moves come to fruition, there's still time to pivot to full-tank and reap the benefits.

    Not a bad hybrid-strategy, to be honest. It's working out.
     
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  12. Whyachi

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    hey, at least Uber Driver stays awake for the games. I'm pretty sure the Blazers showed HCP sleeping on the job.
     
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    don't worry, it's enough that you share at home
     
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  14. Ed O

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    I can't tell if you're serious.

    You think this is going WELL? We only have a couple young players of consequence. We only have a few extra future first rounders at the end of the decade. We have three horrible years of losing and we moved the best Blazer ever. We are locked into a massive deal with an age 30+ Jerami Grant.

    Hopefully we are younger and better in a couple of years, but it won't be as good as we would have been had we traded our veterans for value (rather than re-signing them or extending and then trading them) and used salary cap space to take on bad contracts in return for future value.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    What deal should he have taken? I think we well know their value. Perhaps we didn't get an offer we liked? I do know we shopped Brogdon hard at the deadline.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I think he has value to a playoff team who requires what he brings. He's a unique player who I think can bring value on the trade market.
     
  17. Ed O

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    He brought back almost nothing to Philadelphia, and since then he's (a) got older, (b) played worse, and (c) signed a larger contract.

    Anything is possible, I guess, but it doesn't seem likely to me.
     
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    Huh? Your thinking Jody is waiting until Phil Knight is 90 to buy the team?
     
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    Agreed with those points, yeah we could be doing a better job of acquiring assets.

    Im not sure what he meant, but I assumed his "tanking well" comment or whatever may have only been in regard to the draft picks from losing ... In that aspect yeah we've done well.
     
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    Without a coach who is any sort of good, Brogdon being Scoot’s mentor on the court is essential; we kind of can’t trade him without a better coach… maybe we should bring Stotts back; at least he made the playoffs a few times.
     

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