Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

it's a good thing I listen to the team insiders. See... Avdija is the same age as Dalton Knecht. That's why Cronin could sell the #14 pick to duck his own tax excursion. Therefore, oh rats, I'm lost.

screw it, Go Blazers !!

 

Ain’t no way teams are gonna give up what we are asking for Jerami and Ant. They’re not even borderline all stars.

 

That’s what I was asking a couple days ago. Is the Blazers asking price too high on those two?

 

Jerami is ok 3rd / great 4th option

 

Rumors are they may break up the Mobley Allen duo as it doesn't have enough shooting.

 

I love Allen. Maybe Ayton would be a better pairing with Mobley on offense. How about a swap of Ayton for Allen/Strus? Then we have a great defensive rotation at center with Allen/RW/Clingan.

 

I think the asking price is fine, the problem is that with where the lakers are in their timeline and how far out the picks are (and how many picks they have total), it becomes a much steeper price that frankly would be a tick irresponsible if you’re rob pelinka. I don’t think rob believes they’re a jerami grant away from a title, and I don’t think I disagree.

with Orlando, theyre ‘just’ early enough in their competitive window that it doesn’t seem like they want the expectations clock to start quite yet. I also have the sneaky suspicion that Joe values ant even more than jerami when it comes to his asking price.

 

If they do it will be a straight-up swap of Allen and Brandon Ingram. We have nothing that would interest them that much.

 

Ayton would fit:

New Orleans
Atlanta
Houston
NY Knicks
Charlotte
Toronto

thoughts?

 

He would be a huge get for any of those teams I just don't know what the trades look like that get him there or if our GM is even remotely interested in moving him until he sees what Clingan can and can't do against NBA talent.

 

Picks is about it (and crappy contracts) but this seems appealing to most.

 

If Sengun was part of the trade I would love that move. I thought there were posters on here that said Sengun was available. He's only 21 going into year 4 after avg 21 pts, 8 rebs and 5 assists on decent shooting %'s.
I'm not a fan of DA so it kind of clouds my judgement on his trade value.

 

How would you rank Blazers asset value? I think mine would be;

Sharpe
2029 FRP
2025 FRP
Deni
Scoot
FRP others
Clingan
Ant
Grant
Camara
Ayton
0 value
Thybulle
Timelord
Rupert
Murray

Would be interesting to rank on a scale of 1-10 or something against historical Blazers rosters. I suspect after Sharpe and two FRP all our assets have very little value compared to Blazers rosters of other eras. Whitsitt roster between Clyde and Sheed eras, then John Nash rosters before Roy were two low points.

 

I'd probably put Grant & Ayton ahead of Ant. And I'd doubt any 2029 pick would be ahead of Avdija, Scoot, & Clingan

 

I have them all worth less than any single of our FRP and would rank them very similarly. That's why I'd be super happy with one FRP for Grant if it's unprotected. If Cronin is actually demanding two unprotected FRP from the Lakers he's way too unrealistic which risks us missing out as with Timelord last year.

The 2029 pick is the best of PDX, BOS, MIL. It has much higher upside than those Blazers players as it could be Tatum/Brown/Flagg/Paulo/etc level of prospect, and the best pick of 3 teams has value multiplied. The value of Avdija Scoot Clingan has much less variance but it doesn't have near the upside. I could see an argument the average expected value of the 2029 pick is lower, but that upside component is so much more valuable if realized and potentially contending player impact to the team I'd clearly rank the pick higher.

 

I think for every year between now and the 2029 pick, it loses a portion of it's value. 5 years is an eternity in the NBA. Based on this last season, Portland's 2025 pick is worth a lot more than the best 2029 pick

 

Portlands 2026 FRP should be listed after the 2025 FRP in my opinion. That draft class currently has Boozer and others. They should also be listed ahead of classes like 2029 who are what, in the 8th grade and unknown? I understand hoping Boston or Milwaukee go into the lotto by 2029, but not a certainty. I would also list Ayton higher, especially if he has a great season putting up 20/12 and will be on an expiring contract after the season. I believe Grant has more value league wide currently, but after this season Ant becomes an expiring contract as well, changing his value.

 

I don't see it that way at all. The 2025 Blazers pick has a ton of value as the team is projected to be bad and the draft is loaded.

The Bucks and Celtics are great teams now so their 2025 picks have much less value. Their 2029 picks have much higher value, especially the Bucks who have few other assets on that roster.

The draft strength component is less certain so in 2029 it's less valuable than the known 2025 strong draft. But a less certain value is better than the known bad value of the 2024 draft so it's probably somewhere in between.

I don't believe draft picks years out are inherently less valuable than an earlier pick. That's just something fans are concerned with or impatient with. The picks worth is estimated and it can be bought or sold today, months from now, years later, or at that eventual draft.