Oregon State, Oregon agree not to use the term ‘Civil War’ for its sports rivalry games

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  1. Hoopguru

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    I think that is happening already in many area's of the nation.
     
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    Native American genocide...funding the slaughter of their food source the buffalo....taking their lands and hunting grounds by force....history says by the time Grant was president he was a complete drunk and burned out PTSD Civil war vet.....
     
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    Im proud that Grant was able to overcome personal issues and basically win the war for Lincoln. He was also, honorable and sensitive as he told young confederate soldiers after the war to go home and be with family.
    I dont know why they targeted Grant, but with the cancel culture they will come up with something that's for sure.
     
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    Talk to Native Americans about how sensitive he was...by they I assume you mean white people
     
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    whom ever it was that knocked down Grants Statue.
     
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    No matter what, no matter who, every human in history is inherently flawed. Now, do we condemn them, or do we celebrate the good they did in their time?
     
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    River, I cant change the sins of our ancestors, and each and every culture now, and in the past throughout time has them. What we can do is build for the now and future a more equitable, prosperous and free society. I think the country is making progress, I know since my youth we have, but its not enough. What is average status quo today will below average or behind tomorrow. If we don't know where we are going as a people, we will end up somewhere else. What gets measured gets done too.
     
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    My father had a philosophy for all, family or friends, "if you have something to say, go ahead and say without fear someone is going to attack you or hold a gun to your head". No that others will have different beliefs and attitudes and feelings on things, be respectful of others opinions.
    In my past profession I managed many employees over the years and I wanted them to know that they could come to me with what ever and we'll see what we can or cannot workout. But I wanted them to know I wasn't going to play politics within the organization and people could disagree with me, in fact I wanted it, because I certainly wanted to tap into the talents of employees and do personal inventory of myself. Raised my kids the same way...
    I find it very sad that people are so polarized and dogmatic that CIVIL discussions cannot happen for the good and improvement. And for the little people.
     
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    It's not our place to need to change these things, but if the oppressed amongst us with ancestors affected do wish to...I fully support their reasoning and understand it. It's just language and imagery but it doesn't need my approval to be changed for the better or to make a statement of solidarity
     
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    There are causes for both
     
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    I grew up across from the reservation lands in the Midwest and example....the tribes weren't allowed to compete with our baseball teams...or drink in our bars or buy alcohol in the liquor store...this is before the era of the casino but we've treated the locals very badly concerning our history and who we prop up as heroes more often than not. In Oregon there's a really bad history of segregation and refusal to sell property to black people for a long, long time. Now is the time to address our history and make sure it doesn't repeat itself in the form of our youth
     
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    Native Americans fought and conquered each other before the westward expansion, so they all have to go too. We might as well erase all history.
     
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    get woke....
     
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    So? We don't give a shit. It won't save one black life. It's stupid. I'll always call it the Civil War.
     
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    Hilarious... Listen to all the white fragility.
     
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    interesting.....not the response I'd expect from you bro.....that's what I get for assumptions
     
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    good to see you post my friend....hope you and your son are weathering the storm ok
     
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    I just got done binge-watching the first 4 seasons of "Vikings". Wow, they were just ruthless. How does a mascot like that exist in the city of Portland?
     
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    Minnesota embraced them
     
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    I’m no historian, but didn’t Oregon fight for the good side?

    I just don’t see the issue
     

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