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Forgive me for making a new thread about Damian and Nurk. Sly says I can since I have mod powers.

Anyway, not counting the first game vs Utah (because Nurkic hadn't been with the team very long), Damian has been on a tear since Nurk joined the team. Barring the stuff that Quicks article is about, I think he has benefited the most from Nurk.

For example, in the 13 games since the All Star Break, Damian has averaged:

31 points
4.6 rebounds
5.5 assists
shot 93% from the free throws
49% from floor
44% from 3.

He's improved his scoring from 25.7 to 26.8, his overall FG% from 43.2 to 44.6% and 3pt % from 34.6 to 36.7%.

Further more, he's had 7 games shooting above 50% (and 2 games below 43%).

At least from last nights game (Miami) he looked to be working on his defensive awareness too.
 
Jusuf is successful at the roll part of the pick and roll, in ways other centers for us haven't been. His screens are huge, his roll is scary to stand in front of, and he has a spin move if he sees opposing centers. Not saying he's our best player or anything, but guards who work with him a lot in the first 3 quarters will benefit a lot in the 4th quarter!

How are CJ's numbers after the break? Better too?
 
Dame is putting effort on the D side of the ball. Nurk been big for Dame on offense due to the picks he give Dame really good looks at the basket. Plus with the pick and roll now have to honor going down the lane. Dame don't see the double like he use too.
 
julius said:
Forgive me for making a new thread about Damian and Nurk. Sly says I can since I have mod powers.

Anyway, not counting the first game vs Utah (because Nurkic hadn't been with the team very long), Damian has been on a tear since Nurk joined the team. Barring the stuff that Quicks article is about, I think he has benefited the most from Nurk.

For example, in the 13 games since the All Star Break, Damian has averaged:

31 points
4.6 rebounds
5.5 assists
shot 93% from the free throws
49% from floor
44% from 3.

He's improved his scoring from 25.7 to 26.8, his overall FG% from 43.2 to 44.6% and 3pt % from 34.6 to 36.7%.

Further more, he's had 7 games shooting above 50% (and 2 games below 43%).

At least from last nights game (Miami) he looked to be working on his defensive awareness too.
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How does Nurk help Lillard with his free throw percentage?
 
BosnianChampion said:
Jusuf is successful at the roll part of the pick and roll, in ways other centers for us haven't been. His screens are huge, his roll is scary to stand in front of, and he has a spin move if he sees opposing centers. Not saying he's our best player or anything, but guards who work with him a lot in the first 3 quarters will benefit a lot in the 4th quarter!

How are CJ's numbers after the break? Better too?
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I won't be able to check CJ's #'s until tomorrow (I work until about 9 tonight). So if someone wants to do his #'s, feel free.

But you're right, his PnR play has been a thing of beauty. He's huge, he's smart, and he's fundamentally sound. I hope this isn't a case of Theo Ratliffism. I want Nurk fever to be full blown...like 9 more years of it.
 
BosnianChampion said:
How are CJ's numbers after the break? Better too?
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Post all-star break, CJ's averaging 22.4 ppg on 47.6% FG (17.8 FGA), 48.1% 3P%, 93.8% FT (3.7 FTA), with 3.5 rebounds and 3.6 assists per game. Basically right on par with his season stats, with the improved 3-point percentage being the only significant difference.

Now, in just the 10 games in March (in which we're 8.5 - 1.5), CJ's averaged just 1 turnover per game and is shooting 49% from the field and from 3, as well as 97% from the line. Deadeye McCollum is basically playing like a high-volume Kyle Korver.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Post all-star break, CJ's averaging 22.4 ppg on 47.6% FG (17.8 FGA), 48.1% 3P%, 93.8% FT (3.7 FTA), with 3.5 rebounds and 3.6 assists per game. Basically right on par with his season stats, with the improved 3-point percentage being the only significant difference.

Now, in just the 10 games in March (in which we're 8.5 - 1.5), CJ's averaged just 1 turnover per game and is shooting 49% from the field and from 3, as well as 97% from the line. Deadeye McCollum is basically playing like a high-volume Kyle Korver.
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Thank you! It makes sense because CJ doesn't pass much. But Jusuf being on the floor maybe forces opponents to respect him, leaving CJ more open.
 
I think its twofold; one reason is Nurk and the other is that Dame was pretty banged uo going into the all star break and he just plain rested. His ankle looks a LOT better as we can tell by how much better he is driving to the basket
 
Blazinaway said:
I think its twofold; one reason is Nurk and the other is that Dame was pretty banged uo going into the all star break and he just plain rested. His ankle looks a LOT better as we can tell by how much better he is driving to the basket
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Last year it was plantar fasciitis, this year it's an ankle. Maybe next year it's nothing because we have more than two good players!
 
BosnianChampion said:
Thank you! It makes sense because CJ doesn't pass much. But Jusuf being on the floor maybe forces opponents to respect him, leaving CJ more open.
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I think CJ passes more than he gets credit for. He still has averaged 3.8 assists in the last 10 games. 5 assists 3 times and 1 game with 6. (The zero assists against OKC hurt his average) In all those games he has been playing primarily at SG with Napier getting minutes (and now ET) with the 2nd team. He does seem to be developing a good chemistry with him as well. The assist late in the game last night leading to a Nurk dunk was sweet. But no doubt CJ's main role is to score.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think CJ passes more than he gets credit for. He still has averaged 3.8 assists in the last 10 games. 5 assists 3 times and 1 game with 6. (The zero assists against OKC hurt his average) in all those games he has been playing primarily at SG with Napier getting minutes (and now ET) with the 2nd team. He does seem to be developing a good chemistry with him as well. The assist late in the game last night leading to a Nurk dunk was sweet. But no doubt CJ's main role is to score.
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Yeah I didn't mean he's a ball hog! He does his job well, especially hitting those 3s! I like CJ almost as much as Jusuf... almost! :D
 
Not to derail, but I think there is another Nurk effect as well. How about the fun side of the guy. How many times is he grabbing his teammates with a big smile with a big bear hug at the end of plays. I know we still have a small sample size, but he sure seems like the opposite of the "cancer" we were concerned about. He seems to be having fun out there and lightening up things for others too. I can't help but think this helps the team on some level as well as his huge body changing things in the lane.

I would have put this in new thread, but Sly or julius would have deleted my text and replaced it with their own. Or so I've heard.
 
Crabbe has really benefited from Nurk.....they can't double team Dame, CJ and Nurk and Crabbe is all alone to shoot now...Nurk is also developing a nice give and go set with Crabbe and CJ....Crabbe has an open freeway to the rim while defenders are on Dame and CJ...Nurk sees this often and gets Crabbe the ball. It's working.
 
Reep said:
Not to derail, but I think there is another Nurk effect as well. How about the fun side of the guy. How many times is he grabbing his teammates with a big smile with a big bear hug at the end of plays. I know we still have a small sample size, but he sure seems like the opposite of the "cancer" we were concerned about. He seems to be having fun out there and lightening up things for others too. I can't help but think this helps the team on some level as well as his huge body changing things in the lane.

I would have put this in new thread, but Sly or julius would have deleted my text and replaced it with their own. Or so I've heard.
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a team filled with guys who actually like each other is a big bonus...once guys get here they love it..great locker room
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's not what I said.

I said you should take an existing thread, delete their text and replace it with yours.
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so hes lying.. shame on you, julius, shame on you!


SlyPokerDog said:
How does Nurk help Lillard with his free throw percentage?
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my guess would be: moral support, although I wouldnt ruled out that hes afraid of Bosnian Beast
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Hahahahaha!

You're a great addition here.
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tbh, I still dont know if I can behave more freely, cause I dont know the forum rules

man Ive been joking whole my life, its all about that with me.. many people dont understand me, cause I use sarcasm alot, and I like to provoke people, but in a good way, just to get their reaction haha

Id like to know if more freely conversation is allowed here :-D
 
From what I can see, both Dame and CJ are getting more open shots from the massive screens that Nurkic is setting. He is literally moving the defender which gives the guards room to shoot or drive to the basket. Plumlee was a good screener, but he never had the physical mass that Nurkic has.
 
B-Roy said:
From what I can see, both Dame and CJ are getting more open shots from the massive screens that Nurkic is setting. He is literally moving the defender which gives the guards room to shoot or drive to the basket. Plumlee was a good screener, but he never had the physical mass that Nurkic has.
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Was Plumlee actually a good screener though? To me his screens were always behind Leonard and Davis. But maybe that's just me.
 
Mr. Robot said:
tbh, I still dont know if I can behave more freely, cause I dont know the forum rules

man Ive been joking whole my life, its all about that with me.. many people dont understand me, cause I use sarcasm alot, and I like to provoke people, but in a good way, just to get their reaction haha

Id like to know if more freely conversation is allowed here :-D
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No personal insults is pretty much the only rule. Attack what someone is saying, not them personally.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Trolling became allowed in American forums once we elected a troll for president.
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yeah hes an idiot

SlyPokerDog said:
To answer your question, yes trolling is allowed but please try and keep it somewhat fun. If you post multiple posts of nothing but Lillard sucks there is going to be a problem.
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sure man, I love Dame Dolla, Leonard not so much hahaha
 
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