Allen Crabbe signs offer sheet with Nets

There is no way the CBA allows for current rookie scale to continue.

Same with exceptions and minimum contracts.

They have to become a % of the cap.

 

I CAN play SG. Doesn't mean I should in the NBA

 

The think is, they aren't really similar players. Crabbe is a 3-pt shooter, solid defender who fouls too much and that is about it.

Turner is a solid defender, good passer, creator, has good handles and a much better all-around game while not being as good of a 3-pt shooter. Crabbe will be paid starter money yet I don't see a starting spot available for him here. Next year would be almost $85M between Dame, CJ, Turner and Crabbe. That is a TON of cap space for just 4 players, 1 of whom wouldn't be a starter.

 

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The interesting part to me is they are all 2nd round players or undrafted FA's. Even Crabbe and his 75 million. No doubt we have to keep our picks, but lets face it if you have a smart front office you can find these cheap nuggets in various places other than just the first round.

 

Ironically we really REALLY should have tried to resign rolo last year.

 

you just can't pay 3 guards, one of whom is decent and a rotation player that much money, and advanced stats say his D is just not very good

 

What was it that Morey said? You have to be the team that finds Chandler Parsons, not the team that pays him.

I love Crabbe, and it pains me to say this, but I think he's gone and should be gone as well. Six 2nd rounders for nothing is a tough pill to swallow, but if you think about it, is Six seconds worth 129 million dollars (RoLo+Crabbe)? Probably not. And if you have confidence in the front office, you can hope they keep hitting on their targeted players. Turning six 2nd rounders into 129 million dollars worth of players is pretty incredible front office work if you really think about it.

 

so what? lets deal with the NOW, we made two pretty solid signings this yr and if we lose Crabbe that's the way it goes, we're still deep and we can always trade a big for a shooter if we think we need to.

 

Turner-- 4/ 70
Deng -- 4/72
Bazemore-- 4/70
Batum -- 5/125
Barnes -- 4/94
Fournier -- 5/85
Parsons -- 4/94

The new reality

 

If you want possible replacements:

-Dorrell Wright
-Matt Barnes
-JR Smith
-Randy Foye
-Alan Anderson
-Kirk Hinrich
-Wayne Ellington
-Gerald Green

.... You have to match

 

Yes, but none of those teams that signed them are going to have that player 6th or 7th man. It isn't what Crabbe got as much as what it does to our luxury tax. Paul Allen isn't paying 60 MIL out of pocket in tax. And people will say then trade him. That trade kicker makes the contract 20 MIL plus a year instead of 18 plus. I don't think teams are going to line up to take him on when he won't get enough minutes on our team to put up big numbers. Plus many of these teams are also going to be near luxury tax area and be looking to cut salary not add.

 

Or Luis Montero/Patty C

Half of us wanted to waive Crabbe before last season...

 

This is true

I really want to see what Patty can do. If he can be a viable replacement, then let AC go and push for flexibility.

 

Yuck

 

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. Right now we are discussing who to cut because we have too many players. It is hard to get star players, but it is easy to get good role players. Look how easy it was to get Harkless. Those type of players are not difficult to find for smart GM's. The reason being is there are only 450 roster spots in the NBA and we have the whole world supplying the talent.

We didn't really lose those 2nd round picks for nothing. We found other players to fill our 15 man roster. Montero and Alexander were just as good as most of the 2nd rounders we would have taken. When lottery picks like Trey Burks are being given away for nothing, you know that decent role players can always be found. Star players are another issue.

 

It's just interesting how nowadays, wings have become so much more overpaid than big men.

 

If we let him walk away for nothing, we will regret it.

Once again, here are Crabbe's numbers as a starter when Dame was out:
15.9 ppg, 43.6% from the field, 39% from three, 3.3 rebounds, and 1.5 assists in 32 minutes per game

16 ppg would put him at 10th in the league last season among shooting guards, tied with Oladipo. People were lauding OKC getting Oladipo in the trade for Ibaka.

Oladipo's stats last year:

16 ppg, 43.8% FG, 34.8% 3P, 4.8 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 1.6 steals

Both players are 24.

 

So you are okay with making Crabbe a starter then?

 

Absolutely. I have been saying I'd trade CJ and start Crabbe for basically a year now. I see CJ as having the most value, and Crabbe could easily fill that starting role. Maybe he's not a star, but he'll be cheaper than CJ, and CJ could maybe net us Boogie or another star caliber player at a position of need.