Allen Crabbe signs offer sheet with Nets

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Should we match Brooklyn's offer sheet for Allen Crabbe?

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Yes I totally agree. I guess Neil knows better the financial things but I don't think we can trade it. And imagine he doesn't really improve, imagine we pay nearly 20M for a 10-12 pts wing that cannot create his shot, rebound or pass really good. Who will take this? We might lose CJ because of this. It's a very hard decision.
 
GDiama said:
Yes I totally agree. I guess Neil knows better the financial things but I don't think we can trade it. And imagine he doesn't really improve, imagine we pay nearly 20M for a 10-12 pts wing that cannot create his shot, rebound or pass really good. Who will take this? We might lose CJ because of this. It's a very hard decision.
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IMO it should be a very easy decision, adios Crabbe
 
Blazinaway said:
you make that sound easy but it won't be at all, who are you going to trade that really makes a difference? you will have 4 guy you just signed (Lillard, Crabbe, ET, and soon CJ) making close to 90 mil with a cap at at 102 mil est next summer. Yoo have to pay some of the others guys some decent money to get good rotation players, so you have to spend wisely on your big contracts
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You are right and that was my thinking before changing my mind once again. Too difficult. I give up. I'll NeO decide and I will think this is the best decision.
 
GDiama said:
Yes I totally agree. I guess Neil knows better the financial things but I don't think we can trade it. And imagine he doesn't really improve, imagine we pay nearly 20M for a 10-12 pts wing that cannot create his shot, rebound or pass really good. Who will take this? We might lose CJ because of this. It's a very hard decision.
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I like Crabbe and enjoyed watching him evolve as a player. With that said, if Olshey knows it'll be very difficult trading Crabbe later on, then don't match. CJ is a guy we will need to keep and managing cap space along with the roster go hand-in-hand.

Harkless becomes that much more important to the team if Olshey decides not to match Crabbe's offer sheet. In the end, I agree, it is a difficult decision.
 
Signing Crabbe gives Neil another year to decide among which guys to keep or trade.

The trade kicker only matters if the receiving team is over the cap.

Crabbe would be expensive, but he's also our 6th man and was quite important to our team's success last season. He's still got a lot of upside.

No brainer to match, IMO.
 
Denny Crane said:
Signing Crabbe gives Neil another year to decide among which guys to keep or trade.
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And if none wants him how do you trade him? Because for example I see 76ers have tons of space but didn't see any offer this summer. Probably none believes he deserves that much except for the Nets.
 
GDiama said:
And if none wants him how do you trade him? Because for example I see 76ers have tons of space but didn't see any offer this summer. Probably none believes he deserves that much except for the Nets.
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Why would nobody want him? I've never seen a contract that isn't tradable. Even Jaylen Rose was traded more than once with a massive contract.
 
What time today is the deadline to match?
 
Blazinaway said:
it will be very hard to trade with the kicker, and as I said yesterday teams into the Lux tax have a lot more restrictions on making trades
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I forgot about the kicker.
Mediocre Man said:
We do the same shit all the time. Milsap, Hibbert and Kanter all got these poison pill type offers from us. Not fair...LOL, You gonna take your ball and go home now?
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That's a good point in your first sentence. I wonder if that 2nd sentence was necessary after you had made your point?
 
I voted match, but I am starting to change my mind. I have read Crabbe won't be happy if he isn't starting. That's not very likely here.
 
I think Crabbe must have hired Batum's agent...he'll get matched and say he never wanted to leave in the first place. Stotts starts him for a dozen games and puts him back on the bench mob once he's forgotten about the Nets
 
This is an incredibly difficult decision here, and I do not envy Neo for having to be the one to make it. At the onset, I felt that we had to match on Crabbe because we don't want to lose an asset like that. The more I think about it, it is a huge price tag for Crabbe and the thing I worry most about is that trade kicker. I have yet to see or hear what the ramifications of that kicker are. Does anyone know (other than Blazers and Nets brass of course)? I think the severity of the kicker will be the deciding factor in whether or not we match.
 
If Dame, Stotts, CJ, Olshey and Allen want Crabbe badly you'd think they'd be flying to meet him and talk him into tearing up the contract and staying with the good guys like the Clips did with DeAndre Jordan
 
riverman said:
If Dame, Stotts, CJ, Olshey and Allen want Crabbe badly you'd think they'd be flying to meet him and talk him into tearing up the contract and staying with the good guys like the Clips did with DeAndre Jordan
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It's not up to crabbe whether he stays or not.
 
riverman said:
If Dame, Stotts, CJ, Olshey and Allen want Crabbe badly you'd think they'd be flying to meet him and talk him into tearing up the contract and staying with the good guys like the Clips did with DeAndre Jordan
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Crabe signed the offer sheet, Deandres initial decision was verbal, it os totally in Portlands hands whether to match or not - that is it
 
Uncle Spliffy said:
This is an incredibly difficult decision here, and I do not envy Neo for having to be the one to make it. At the onset, I felt that we had to match on Crabbe because we don't want to lose an asset like that. The more I think about it, it is a huge price tag for Crabbe and the thing I worry most about is that trade kicker. I have yet to see or hear what the ramifications of that kicker are. Does anyone know (other than Blazers and Nets brass of course)? I think the severity of the kicker will be the deciding factor in whether or not we match.
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If traded his contract counts as 83 Mil to another team instead of 75.
 
riverman said:
If Dame, Stotts, CJ, Olshey and Allen want Crabbe badly you'd think they'd be flying to meet him and talk him into tearing up the contract and staying with the good guys like the Clips did with DeAndre Jordan
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Jordan was an unrestricted free agent, so he had to be convinced to renege. Crabbe is restricted so, whether he wants to leave or not, Portland can match the offer and keep him. No persuasion necessary.
 
Uncle Spliffy said:
So the question then becomes, is Crabbe unmovable at 83 mil? Or would it behoove us to keep him at that number and possibly use him as a trade asset down the road?
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I would say YES considering the SG is the weakest position in the league right now and his contract is about the new norm for your mid tier player.
 
Denny Crane said:
Signing Crabbe gives Neil another year to decide among which guys to keep or trade.

The trade kicker only matters if the receiving team is over the cap.

Crabbe would be expensive, but he's also our 6th man and was quite important to our team's success last season. He's still got a lot of upside.

No brainer to match, IMO.
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No brainer? 80% of our cap space would be going to CJ, Dame, Turner and Crabbe. If you give your starters 75% of the cap, that leaves 25% to the bench, and Crabbe would be taking up 17% of that by himself.
 
HCP said:
I would say YES considering the SG is the weakest position in the league right now and his contract is about the new norm for your mid tier player.
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It is NOT the new norm, it cannot be mathematically. It's only skewed that high because teams have so much money to spend this offseason.
 
With Meyers extended, don't match. Instead I hope Neil looks to trade some combo of Davis/Plumlee/Vonleh/CLE 1st for one of the following:

Kyle Korver
Avery Bradley
Marco Belinelli
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
With Meyers extended, don't match. Instead I hope Neil looks to trade some combo of Davis/Plumlee/Vonleh/CLE 1st for one of the following:

Kyle Korver
Avery Bradley
Marco Belinelli
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
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If we keep Crabbe, we'll be a couple mil below the luxury tax, next year so adding anyone with a substantial countract will put us over.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
With Meyers extended, don't match. Instead I hope Neil looks to trade some combo of Davis/Plumlee/Vonleh/CLE 1st for one of the following:

Kyle Korver
Avery Bradley
Marco Belinelli
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
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Korver fell off significantly last year. I made the mistake of trading for him in my fantasy team.
 
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